For everyone saying the Nintendo fanbase doesn't care about achievements: 1) we don't know this because they've never been exposed to a system like that and 2) how many games already have some local achievement like system?

It's easy to say that the casual audience doesn't care about achievements because they aren't asking for them and doesn't seem like something they'd care about, but how do we know that?  Achievements are a PS3, 360, and Steam sort of thing which are all fairly hardcore for the most part.  The Nintendo or DS has never had anything like it and even the iPhone Game Center doesn't have anything like it (it tracks achievements if a game has them, but not one single system).  How can we be so sure that they wouldn't buy into an achievement system?  Didn't we say the hardcore wouldn't buy into Xbox 360 achievements when they first came out?  Weren't those supposed to be some extra little bonus people didn't actually care about?

So, again, how can we know whether they will or will not care about achievements?  Well, how many Nintendo games already have some sort of local achievement like option?  I'd say a lot of them.  It's rare a game comes out these days that doesn't have some sort of stat tracking like Wii Sports or stickers for completing certain objectives.  Then there's the iPhone games were most games have some sort of in-game local achievements even if they aren't Game Center games.  If we know the casual crowd already likes those, why do we assume they won't like some sort of overarching thing? 

We already have a mile long list of casual games that have a local achievement system and an entire audience that loves achievements, why do we assume they wouldn't love them too?

There's nothing complex about them, people love collecting things, and they're entirely optional.  I'm really not sure why people are so resistent to the idea.

Why do people assume the Nintendo crowd won't like achievements other than because it's a hardcore thing (which the fact every iPhone has them shows it isn't) or too complicated (again, many casual games have this type of thing so it isn't)?

I don't know how serious is this.... I don't believe achivements/trophies are nowhere near to be a key thing 

I don't know, I would call achievements and trophies a key feature for the PS3 and 360 yet they could still strive without them.  Achievements merely enhance gameplay and make people play more so I still would call it a key feature.

probs because they dont have the option to care, Nintendo doesnt suport them lol 

I've flirted with getting into the whole trophy thing on my PS3 a couple of times, but developers always ultimately annoy me by selecting mindnumbingly dull tasks or by putting in online trophies.

Even if it's a game I love, I'm never going to bother with those, and then it puts me off attempting to get others as well.

If Nintendo (or anyone else) came out with a system that eliminates those problems, then I think it'd do well, and they'd be better off because of it.

I agree with twesterm here...

Achievements are great when it comes to replaying classic and retro games. Like... "Play Sonic 2 again, except if you beat it in 45 mins, you get some meaningless points!"... Sweet, where do I sign up!!!???

And knowing nintendo, 3DS is going to be another "remake everything in our back cataloge" types of systems with 3D on top...so achievements like system would be great motivator for me to replay mario 64 for the 10th time.

No.  Just no.

Achievements are just E-penis fodder.

-registers some games on his Club Nintendo account-

I concur; Everyone hides a little attention-whore inside.

disagree. Who cares about a digital trophy?

Because then the fanboys would have to admit Nintendo copied competitor solution :)