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Which will sell more Lifetime: 360 or PSP?

PSP 70 35.90%
 
360 125 64.10%
 
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Chibi.V.29 on 05 January 2011
Pineapple said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
Sol said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
Immortal said:
Chibi.V.29 said:

You just stated yourself why there random xD its based on info from last 2 or 3 months. I coudl base on past information that the PS360 could end up beating the wii LTD. Not saying it will but using same logic i could ^^


Of course, but in that case, I could counter your argument by looking at historical trends which showed that Wii always rises phenomenally during the holidays and how it had already done so last year in the exact same situation, outselling PS360 in the process. The PS360 situation, on the other hand, is always changing -- the only reason one starts gaining on the other is because the company does something to make it happen. It isn't "natural". With no real reason for PS3 to overtake the 360 randomly right now, and no information from Sony regarding a game changer that'll give them the lead again, there is currently no reason whatsoever to believe that PS3 will reduce the gap. 3 months or so ago, when Wii was performing loserishly, there was still plenty of reason (holidays) for Wii to outdo PS360 later on. That doesn't exist with PS3 for the moment.


The moral of this story is if you predict LTD sales of a console no matter what the figures i think your moderately stupid ^^ Know if you'll excuse me im not in the mood to argue with a 13 year old at 5am ^^


I'm aware of what it sais i dont have to agree with it ^^ And i find it to be stupid as your trying to predict something with a huge number of variables. Predicting 1 years time makes scene as you can use current logic but to guess an even in lets say 4 years time is just stupid :P

Why? We might not be completely precise, and often miss completely but that doesn't mean that it's stupid or futile to do it.  The fact that we find it entertaining is more than enough reason by itself to do it, and to not make it stupid.

Now, entering a thread and calling the people in it stupid, now that is stupid. It's needlessly insulting and possibly upsetting people. If you want to talk about stupid, that's a whole other league than predicting the sales 4 years into the future.

 

 

Stupid just means to do something of un-intellectual value. You can describe 1 thing as being stupid with no regards for the intelligence of the person whom it was conceived. And though people may find it fun it often leads to start long argument between people about which console is better >_> Some people fidn it fun to dive bomb of cliffs. Doesn't make that any less stupid ^^



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Chibi.V.29 on 05 January 2011
Ingmar said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
Sol said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
Immortal said:
Chibi.V.29 said:

You just stated yourself why there random xD its based on info from last 2 or 3 months. I coudl base on past information that the PS360 could end up beating the wii LTD. Not saying it will but using same logic i could ^^


Of course, but in that case, I could counter your argument by looking at historical trends which showed that Wii always rises phenomenally during the holidays and how it had already done so last year in the exact same situation, outselling PS360 in the process. The PS360 situation, on the other hand, is always changing -- the only reason one starts gaining on the other is because the company does something to make it happen. It isn't "natural". With no real reason for PS3 to overtake the 360 randomly right now, and no information from Sony regarding a game changer that'll give them the lead again, there is currently no reason whatsoever to believe that PS3 will reduce the gap. 3 months or so ago, when Wii was performing loserishly, there was still plenty of reason (holidays) for Wii to outdo PS360 later on. That doesn't exist with PS3 for the moment.


The moral of this story is if you predict LTD sales of a console no matter what the figures i think your moderately stupid ^^ Know if you'll excuse me im not in the mood to argue with a 13 year old at 5am ^^

The OP is asking for predictions of lifetime sales of two consoles on a video-game sales discussion forum.  How exactly does that make any member posting their prediction of lifetime sales of said consoles stupid?


I'm aware of what it sais i dont have to agree with it ^^ And i find it to be stupid as your trying to predict something with a huge number of variables. Predicting 1 years time makes scene as you can use current logic but to guess an even in lets say 4 years time is just stupid :P

No, it's not stupid, it's just fun. If you don't like such unsafe predictions without using 'current logic' then leave this thread and STFU calling other people stupid. :P


The word stupid can be used to describe a single act of an individual with no regards for there level of intellect ^^ Which is the context i am currently using it in. And fun can very often be described as stupid. liek i just said to someone elkse. many may find it "fun" to dive bomb of a cliff into the see doesn't make it any less stupid.



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Ingmar on 05 January 2011
Chibi.V.29 said:

The word stupid can be used to describe a single act of an individual with no regards for there level of intellect ^^ Which is the context i am currently using it in. And fun can very often be described as stupid. liek i just said to someone elkse. many may find it "fun" to dive bomb of a cliff into the see doesn't make it any less stupid.

If someone just want to go swimming that would be indeed stupid. If someone takes an injury or death into account, doing this for the thrill, it wouldn't be stupid even if the sea'd be populated with great whites. ;)

And predicting a lifetime sale just guessing what might happen, isn't stupid at all. 



Mordred11 on 05 January 2011

The release of the 3DS could actually help the PSP,that is if the DS gets much less support from Nintendo.The people who won't be able to afford a 3DS will most probably buy a PSP,and of course a price-cut will also happen for the PSP.

My guess is it will be very close,with the 360 winning by a slight margin.



Chibi.V.29 on 05 January 2011
Ingmar said:
Chibi.V.29 said:

The word stupid can be used to describe a single act of an individual with no regards for there level of intellect ^^ Which is the context i am currently using it in. And fun can very often be described as stupid. liek i just said to someone elkse. many may find it "fun" to dive bomb of a cliff into the see doesn't make it any less stupid.

If someone just want to go swimming that would be indeed stupid. If someone takes an injury or death into account, doing this for the thrill, it wouldn't be stupid even if the sea'd be populated with great whites. ;)

And predicting a lifetime sale just guessing what might happen, isn't stupid at all. 

Doing something stupid just means your doing something with not intelligent reasoning behind it. Trying to guess the number of something that will be sold is impossible considering the number of variables it has. Which in my opinion makes it stupid. And iv said its my opinion its stupid so your argument is invalid against me ;)



Yeah i know my spelling sucks but im dysgraphic so live with it :3    

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gergroy on 05 January 2011
Chibi.V.29 said:
Ingmar said:
Chibi.V.29 said:

The word stupid can be used to describe a single act of an individual with no regards for there level of intellect ^^ Which is the context i am currently using it in. And fun can very often be described as stupid. liek i just said to someone elkse. many may find it "fun" to dive bomb of a cliff into the see doesn't make it any less stupid.

If someone just want to go swimming that would be indeed stupid. If someone takes an injury or death into account, doing this for the thrill, it wouldn't be stupid even if the sea'd be populated with great whites. ;)

And predicting a lifetime sale just guessing what might happen, isn't stupid at all. 

Doing something stupid just means your doing something with not intelligent reasoning behind it. Trying to guess the number of something that will be sold is impossible considering the number of variables it has. Which in my opinion makes it stupid. And iv said its my opinion its stupid so your argument is invalid against me ;)

Here, I bolded the important part here for you.  IT IS A GUESS!.  They aren't saying that these are the figures it is going to be, but what they think it might be.  The fact that there are so many variables means that the only thing they can do is guess.

There are TONS of prediction threads on this site.  People predict lifetime sales everyday here, from games to console hardware.  It is kind of the point of the forums on this site.  If you think that is stupid, then why the hell are you here.  Also, stop derailing a thread about predictions, if you don't like them, then don't freaking post, it is that simple.



Chibi.V.29 on 05 January 2011
gergroy said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
Ingmar said:
Chibi.V.29 said:

The word stupid can be used to describe a single act of an individual with no regards for there level of intellect ^^ Which is the context i am currently using it in. And fun can very often be described as stupid. liek i just said to someone elkse. many may find it "fun" to dive bomb of a cliff into the see doesn't make it any less stupid.

If someone just want to go swimming that would be indeed stupid. If someone takes an injury or death into account, doing this for the thrill, it wouldn't be stupid even if the sea'd be populated with great whites. ;)

And predicting a lifetime sale just guessing what might happen, isn't stupid at all. 

Doing something stupid just means your doing something with not intelligent reasoning behind it. Trying to guess the number of something that will be sold is impossible considering the number of variables it has. Which in my opinion makes it stupid. And iv said its my opinion its stupid so your argument is invalid against me ;)

Here, I bolded the important part here for you.  IT IS A GUESS!.  They aren't saying that these are the figures it is going to be, but what they think it might be.  The fact that there are so many variables means that the only thing they can do is guess.

There are TONS of prediction threads on this site.  People predict lifetime sales everyday here, from games to console hardware.  It is kind of the point of the forums on this site.  If you think that is stupid, then why the hell are you here.  Also, stop derailing a thread about predictions, if you don't like them, then don't freaking post, it is that simple.


Ah but people tend to say i predict bla bla bla which actually means to guess using facts etc. the fact change every day for consoles xD games is a different story as you can make very well educated guesses as they often follow very basic structures. And ill post where i like thank you ^^ And im not derailing it. im simply pointing out something that is do do with the subject of the thread. im just taking a different angle. Magic isnt it :D



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MightyGrogg on 05 January 2011
snakenobi said:

So the 360 recently broke many milestones from 50m to outselling SNES.But where will it rank when its all set and done

On the other hand SONY continues to grind sales out of the PSP in its 7th year which recently broke 65m mark

 

360's plus points :

still selling good

good software support

mid-cycle refreshment as kinect

pricecuts

 

360's negatives :

successor coming on in 1-2 years time

low first party to support 2 consoles

MS would have a stiff competition next generation so they might shift resources away


PSP's plus points :

software support still there

sony is known to keep playstation products selling for long time

Possible alot future SONY phones integrating PSP to keep PSP going for 10 year life-cycle,first PSPhone releasing soon

strong SONY first party to keep it going

pricecuts

 

PSP's negatives :

bad software sales as a result software support dropping

succesor coming 1-2 years time

 

 

 

So give your predictions and also tell us what you think will be the lifetime of both of them?

 

my prediction is PSP

 

lifetime:

360 = 80m

PSP = 90m

Scratching my head for a minute. You do realize that the PSP will start to die quickly once the PSP2 gets released right? Why would you compare the PSP to the XBox 360? Handheld -vs- console comparisons don't mix. It's like comparing PC graphics -vs- console graphics. It's a bit silly.



Pineapple on 05 January 2011
Chibi.V.29 said:
Pineapple said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
Sol said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
Immortal said:
Chibi.V.29 said:

You just stated yourself why there random xD its based on info from last 2 or 3 months. I coudl base on past information that the PS360 could end up beating the wii LTD. Not saying it will but using same logic i could ^^


Of course, but in that case, I could counter your argument by looking at historical trends which showed that Wii always rises phenomenally during the holidays and how it had already done so last year in the exact same situation, outselling PS360 in the process. The PS360 situation, on the other hand, is always changing -- the only reason one starts gaining on the other is because the company does something to make it happen. It isn't "natural". With no real reason for PS3 to overtake the 360 randomly right now, and no information from Sony regarding a game changer that'll give them the lead again, there is currently no reason whatsoever to believe that PS3 will reduce the gap. 3 months or so ago, when Wii was performing loserishly, there was still plenty of reason (holidays) for Wii to outdo PS360 later on. That doesn't exist with PS3 for the moment.


The moral of this story is if you predict LTD sales of a console no matter what the figures i think your moderately stupid ^^ Know if you'll excuse me im not in the mood to argue with a 13 year old at 5am ^^


I'm aware of what it sais i dont have to agree with it ^^ And i find it to be stupid as your trying to predict something with a huge number of variables. Predicting 1 years time makes scene as you can use current logic but to guess an even in lets say 4 years time is just stupid :P

Why? We might not be completely precise, and often miss completely but that doesn't mean that it's stupid or futile to do it.  The fact that we find it entertaining is more than enough reason by itself to do it, and to not make it stupid.

Now, entering a thread and calling the people in it stupid, now that is stupid. It's needlessly insulting and possibly upsetting people. If you want to talk about stupid, that's a whole other league than predicting the sales 4 years into the future.

 

 

Stupid just means to do something of un-intellectual value. You can describe 1 thing as being stupid with no regards for the intelligence of the person whom it was conceived. And though people may find it fun it often leads to start long argument between people about which console is better >_> Some people fidn it fun to dive bomb of cliffs. Doesn't make that any less stupid ^^


Prediction threads like this one practically never turn into flame wars. The ones that do are completely different.

And your analogy is quite bad. Diving off a cliff might be fun, but it's also harmful. Predicting the sales for the future is completely harmless.

You might be able to somewhat justify calling the people who predict sales stupid for doing so, but really, don't do it. The only possible outcome is you upsetting them, and you're clearly really a nice person, so you obviously don't want that.



Chibi.V.29 on 05 January 2011
Pineapple said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
Pineapple said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
Sol said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
Immortal said:
Chibi.V.29 said:

You just stated yourself why there random xD its based on info from last 2 or 3 months. I coudl base on past information that the PS360 could end up beating the wii LTD. Not saying it will but using same logic i could ^^


Of course, but in that case, I could counter your argument by looking at historical trends which showed that Wii always rises phenomenally during the holidays and how it had already done so last year in the exact same situation, outselling PS360 in the process. The PS360 situation, on the other hand, is always changing -- the only reason one starts gaining on the other is because the company does something to make it happen. It isn't "natural". With no real reason for PS3 to overtake the 360 randomly right now, and no information from Sony regarding a game changer that'll give them the lead again, there is currently no reason whatsoever to believe that PS3 will reduce the gap. 3 months or so ago, when Wii was performing loserishly, there was still plenty of reason (holidays) for Wii to outdo PS360 later on. That doesn't exist with PS3 for the moment.


The moral of this story is if you predict LTD sales of a console no matter what the figures i think your moderately stupid ^^ Know if you'll excuse me im not in the mood to argue with a 13 year old at 5am ^^


I'm aware of what it sais i dont have to agree with it ^^ And i find it to be stupid as your trying to predict something with a huge number of variables. Predicting 1 years time makes scene as you can use current logic but to guess an even in lets say 4 years time is just stupid :P

Why? We might not be completely precise, and often miss completely but that doesn't mean that it's stupid or futile to do it.  The fact that we find it entertaining is more than enough reason by itself to do it, and to not make it stupid.

Now, entering a thread and calling the people in it stupid, now that is stupid. It's needlessly insulting and possibly upsetting people. If you want to talk about stupid, that's a whole other league than predicting the sales 4 years into the future.

 

 

Stupid just means to do something of un-intellectual value. You can describe 1 thing as being stupid with no regards for the intelligence of the person whom it was conceived. And though people may find it fun it often leads to start long argument between people about which console is better >_> Some people fidn it fun to dive bomb of cliffs. Doesn't make that any less stupid ^^


Prediction threads like this one practically never turn into flame wars. The ones that do are completely different.

And your analogy is quite bad. Diving off a cliff might be fun, but it's also harmful. Predicting the sales for the future is completely harmless.

You might be able to somewhat justify calling the people who predict sales stupid for doing so, but really, don't do it. The only possible outcome is you upsetting them, and you're clearly really a nice person, so you obviously don't want that.

Yh...that was kinda a joke O.o I thought it was obvious but never mind ^^ and if anyone was offended i would be incredible surprised. And im not cooling them stupid im simply stating that in an overall context the idea of predicting something out of essentially thin air is not an effective meens of creating figures. or i could just say its Stupid which saves me alot of typing :P Dont take what you read literally on the internet xD



Yeah i know my spelling sucks but im dysgraphic so live with it :3    

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