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postofficebuddy on 01 January 2011
gergroy said:
snfr said:

So we already have these stupid discussions about shipment numbers now? Hell, guys... are you serious?

"Shipped" means "sold to retail", yes. But a company can't ship as much as they want, especially not every single quarter again and again. They ship if there is demand for it. These numbers are accurate, simply because companies can't lie about their numbers in financial reports. The numbers we have on VGChartz, well, you know there are adjustments from time to time. My point here is not to downplay VGC numbers, but some people act like shipment numbers can't be trusted at all (or at least, less than VGC's numbers). I trust VGC's numbers, but they are surely not more reliable than shipment numbers.

End of story.

OT:

Great numbers for everyone so far! Good to see all consoles doing well.


not really end of story.  You can overstuff the retail channel, Microsoft has been guilty of this on several holiday periods.  As evidenced by the fact that they barely shipped a million units the next quarts, but still sold multi million units to customers.  

Retailers have warehouses that they can store stuff, it happens. 


Yes, but the thing to note about that is even with the channels stuffed the largest shipment MS has ever managed is 6 million. And that was when they didn't have to worry about Kinect production as well. Is it even physically possible for them to stuff the channel this time around? There was a report from Barron's a couple months ago that chip manufacturers were cutting back on production and MS was scaling back 360 build plans.



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4k1x3r on 01 January 2011
Fumanchu said:

Have they stopped doing those 'Mind the Gap' articles? Is the gap now back to what it was before the PS3 launched?

Huh no, but I guess they'll wait till shipments figures are out.



snfr on 01 January 2011
gergroy said:
snfr said:

So we already have these stupid discussions about shipment numbers now? Hell, guys... are you serious?

"Shipped" means "sold to retail", yes. But a company can't ship as much as they want, especially not every single quarter again and again. They ship if there is demand for it. These numbers are accurate, simply because companies can't lie about their numbers in financial reports. The numbers we have on VGChartz, well, you know there are adjustments from time to time. My point here is not to downplay VGC numbers, but some people act like shipment numbers can't be trusted at all (or at least, less than VGC's numbers). I trust VGC's numbers, but they are surely not more reliable than shipment numbers.

End of story.

OT:

Great numbers for everyone so far! Good to see all consoles doing well.


not really end of story.  You can overstuff the retail channel, Microsoft has been guilty of this on several holiday periods.  As evidenced by the fact that they barely shipped a million units the next quarts, but still sold multi million units to customers.  

Retailers have warehouses that they can store stuff, it happens. 

Sure, this can happen. But a company can't overstuff every quarter. As you said, if someone oversuffs the retail channel, then you'll see it in the following shipment numbers. And you probably also know that we have these stupid "Sony is overshipping" or "Sony is stuffing the channels" threads every quarter. And this is just nonsense because a company can't do that every quarter (but I already said this in my post above).

But now: end of story



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daroamer on 01 January 2011

Good to see 6 Kinect games in the top 50 but what's up with Joy Ride having it's best week in the America's yet at almost 150k?  That's a 50% increase from last week.  By comparison in week 3 it only sold 6,177 units!



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Notorius.A.i.G on 01 January 2011

GT5 is doing really good in the Americas.



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XxXProphecyXxX on 01 January 2011

Great week for all console specially Wii 1m in US alone LOL.

GT5 4.6m should pass 5m by years end.

I dont get whats so bad about PS3 sales tho last year 360 sold 700k WW same time period and ppl were rejoicing but now ps3 sold near 900k its suddenly "bad" LMAO? really?..........



BlueRabbit17 on 01 January 2011

Good sells for everyone.

Congrats on reaching 50 million xbox 360 units sold.Another 1 million week for 360

And ps3 not doing bad at all,I see ps3 reaching 50 million units much sooner than we expect

And of course The wii and the DS wow,terrific numbers as always



 

4k1x3r on 01 January 2011
XxXProphecyXxX said:

Great week for all console specially Wii 1m in US alone LOL.

GT5 4.6m should pass 5m by years end.

I dont get whats so bad about PS3 sales tho last year 360 sold 700k WW same time period and ppl were rejoicing but now ps3 sold near 900k its suddenly "bad" LMAO? really?..........

Heh, that's why sometimes you just have to close your eyes when you read some comments. The X360 is doing better, not PS3 doing much worse. Last year it had Slim, this Year X360 has Slim and Kinect (no Move came out earlier and isn't "really" popular or pushing hardware). And I don't want to say something because I'll get banned but, let's see what happens in late January =D just for the fun and the meltdowns. Inb4 Bu bu but... :p

Oh and btw:

 

America:


Weeks Gran Turismo 4 Gran Turismo 5 Difference
1 770 867 473 393 -297 474
2 299 629 173 931 -423 172
3 152 368 174 036 -401 504
4 95 472 172 393 -324 583
5 68 348 198 424 -194 507
6 47 451

7 31 749

8 25 951

9 20 685

10 18 596

Total 10W: 1 531 116 1 192 177 -338 939




EMEAA:


Weeks Gran Turismo 4 Gran Turismo 5 Difference
1 1 078 304 1 293 458 215 154
2 542 279 495 715 168 590
3 290 143 416 705 295 152
4 192 343 384 813 487 622
5 139 295 311 178 659 505
6 109 402

7 90 388

8 82 976

9 74 480

10 66 924

Total 10W: 2 666 534 2 901 869 235 335




Japan:


Weeks Gran Turismo 4 Gran Turismo 5 Difference
1 673 884 424 737 -249 147
2 158 470 59 599 -348 018
3 67 665 26 600 -389 083
4 38 793 16 523 -411 353
5 24 019 12 500 -422 872
6 21 191

7 15 124

8 12 062

9 7 603

10 6 569

Total 10W: 1 025 380 539 959 -485 421




Worldwide:


Weeks Gran Turismo 4 Gran Turismo 5 Difference
1 2 523 055 2 191 588 -331 467
2 1 000 378 729 245 -602 600
3 510 176 617 341 -495 435
4 326 608 573 729 -248 314
5 231 662 522 102 42 126
6 178 044

7 137 261

8 120 989

9 102 768

10 92 089

Total 10W: 5 223 030 4 634 005 -589 025

Well yea, I put 12 500 in Japan, because that's what it's gonna do probably, and no matter what, it's not really important x)



Darth Tigris on 02 January 2011

I'm seriously not trying to troll here, but WHO COULD'VE EVER predicted this????????????????

12
Kinect Sports (X360)
Microsoft
8 282,903

1,279,915
24
Gran Turismo 5 (PS3)
Sony Computer Entertainment
5 198,424 1,192,177