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gergroy said:
snfr said:

So we already have these stupid discussions about shipment numbers now? Hell, guys... are you serious?

"Shipped" means "sold to retail", yes. But a company can't ship as much as they want, especially not every single quarter again and again. They ship if there is demand for it. These numbers are accurate, simply because companies can't lie about their numbers in financial reports. The numbers we have on VGChartz, well, you know there are adjustments from time to time. My point here is not to downplay VGC numbers, but some people act like shipment numbers can't be trusted at all (or at least, less than VGC's numbers). I trust VGC's numbers, but they are surely not more reliable than shipment numbers.

End of story.

OT:

Great numbers for everyone so far! Good to see all consoles doing well.


not really end of story.  You can overstuff the retail channel, Microsoft has been guilty of this on several holiday periods.  As evidenced by the fact that they barely shipped a million units the next quarts, but still sold multi million units to customers.  

Retailers have warehouses that they can store stuff, it happens. 


Yes, but the thing to note about that is even with the channels stuffed the largest shipment MS has ever managed is 6 million. And that was when they didn't have to worry about Kinect production as well. Is it even physically possible for them to stuff the channel this time around? There was a report from Barron's a couple months ago that chip manufacturers were cutting back on production and MS was scaling back 360 build plans.



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