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RolStoppable said:
poroporo said:
RolStoppable said:

It is the latter. I didn't say it was a good guess.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/18/microsoft-to-spend-one-billion-dollars-advertising-kinect-and-wi/

We don't know about Sony, unfortunately.

We don't have to in order to know that Wagram made a bad guess.

1/50 of $500 million is $10 million and Sony definitely spent multiple times that amount to advertise Move.

We don't know that. You're just making a guess.



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poroporo said:
RolStoppable said:
poroporo said:
RolStoppable said:

It is the latter. I didn't say it was a good guess.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/18/microsoft-to-spend-one-billion-dollars-advertising-kinect-and-wi/

We don't know about Sony, unfortunately.

We don't have to in order to know that Wagram made a bad guess.

1/50 of $500 million is $10 million and Sony definitely spent multiple times that amount to advertise Move.

We don't know that. You're just making a guess.

J'accuse!





daroamer said:
poroporo said:
RolStoppable said:
poroporo said:
RolStoppable said:

It is the latter. I didn't say it was a good guess.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/18/microsoft-to-spend-one-billion-dollars-advertising-kinect-and-wi/

We don't know about Sony, unfortunately.

We don't have to in order to know that Wagram made a bad guess.

1/50 of $500 million is $10 million and Sony definitely spent multiple times that amount to advertise Move.

We don't know that. You're just making a guess.

J'accuse!



Ce qui veut dire?

Never mind. :)



RolStoppable said:
poroporo said:
RolStoppable said:

We don't have to in order to know that Wagram made a bad guess.

1/50 of $500 million is $10 million and Sony definitely spent multiple times that amount to advertise Move.

We don't know that. You're just making a guess.

An educated guess. Move has regular TV commercials running since it launched which has to cost some money. Assuming the minimum amount Sony spent on advertising Move is $25 million (which isn't far fetched) puts it already at 1/20 of Microsoft's budget.

1/20 sounds way less dramatic than 1/50, wouldn't you agree?

It's still 'very little' in comparison to Microsoft's numbers, which was the point that Wagram was trying to make. Nobody knows the real numbers, so it's only speculation -- subject to interpretation. The real answer doesn't matter since we'll probably never know. Your educated guess is still a guess. How much does a TV commercial cost?

Additionally, who cares?



RolStoppable said:
poroporo said:

It's still 'very little' in comparison to Microsoft's numbers, which was the point that Wagram was trying to make. Nobody knows the real numbers, so it's only speculation -- subject to interpretation. The real answer doesn't matter since we'll probably never know. Your educated guess is still a guess. How much does a TV commercial cost?

If that's how you see it, then there's no point in continuing this discussion. It's just arguing over semantics.

Cool.



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Funny tread with turn table between the xbox and the wii. With lots of funny answer *go take some pop corn*



But we must first concentrate ourselves on the way to entertain people, for video games to live. Else, it's a world where sales representative will win, which has as effect to kill creativity. I want to say to the creators all around the world:"Courage, Dare!". Shigeru Miyamoto.

iasta said:

Funny tread with turn table between the xbox and the wii. With lots of funny answer *go take some pop corn*



Docwiz sounds away too much like a viral marketer I see.



Above: still the best game of the year.

Docwiz said:

Tickle Me Elmo was a doll that couldn't do much.

The technology behind Kinect can be revolutionary and it is useful, there is a big difference.  It's like saying well this plastic car sold great for Christmas and so then you go on to say that a real car is just a gimmick.

Kinect will make it to the PC and it can be put in cars and it can actually save lives if you modify the technology a little bit.

For gaming it is revolutionary, it is the start of the Holodeck type of technology in the newer Star Treks, it's the first part down that path.

You can argue this all you want, but it can be used in a real world of things that improve life and entertainment, I can't say that for Tickle Me Elmo.

Entertainment in Movies, Music, Video games.  It can teach people to dance and have fun at the same time in their own home.  It can keep their mind off their problems, it can relax them and it get them physically healthy without cheating (you could always fake out the wii controller).

So, no I don't think Tickle Me Elmo did anything like this.

Didn't you forget to add it cures cancer?



Above: still the best game of the year.

Beuli2 said:

Docwiz sounds away too much like a viral marketer I see.


My thoughts exactly.



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