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yum123 said:

its funny the psps being hugely adjusted up and is still massively undertracked and nobodys noticed


What is a Psp????



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themanwithnoname said:
Metallicube said:
themanwithnoname said:


My favorite is that Metallicube keeps insisting it's Halo/Call of Duty/Slim that're why the 360 keeps selling so well. Of course, if you point out that Kinect Sports, an unbundled game, outsold Halo this week, he will promptly ignore your post, as he did mine in the Americas thread. Rather comical, but I expect nothing when it comes to trying to logically debate anybody on this site.

So you honestly think the mega hits Black Ops and Halo are not moving the majority of those consoles? 360 sales skyrocketed long before Kinect, and the reason was the much bigger value slim model and the mega hits I just mentioned.

I promise you most people are not spending $300 for a motion camera and Kinect Adventures.

You Kinect peoples are gonna be in for a rude wake up call come early next year me thinks..

Why would two games, one of which has had five prequels release on the console, and the other of which is selling just below Kinect Sports be the only reason sales or so high? For someone who's so preachy about software, you consistently have ignored Kinect Sports still selling more than Halo did this week to the point where it becomes almost pointless to debate you because you have nothing to refute facts with and ignore them whenever you see fit.

But hey, I'll take a stab at this one more time...

If Halo is having such a profound effect on 360 sales right now, why isn't the same true for Kinect Sports (an unbundled game), which sold more this week?

It's a pretty straight forward question, and one I'd like you to answer without some baseless promise premised on the fact that you can't comprehend that Kinect might be driving console sales.

Um, could it be because Kinect Sports is 6 weeks old while Halo Reach is over twice that? And STILL Halo is close to Kinect Sports. Black Ops has sold 8.5 million copies. Halo Reach has sold near 7 million. With those kinds of sales numbers, being a massive hardware mover is essentially a given. A game that sell 5 1/2 million during its first week alone WILL move consoles by default, lots of them. I don't see how that is hard to understand. 

I find it funny that the games ACTUALLY responsible for the surge in 360 sales get no credit from these supposed deticated 360 fans..

I guarantee you that Kinect Sports is not moving most of those 360s. Do you think many people would be willing to shell out $300 for Kinect Sports, when they can get play a game very similar on the Wii for much cheaper?

Obviously, I can't completely prove me point, just like you can't completely disprove it, but here's about as close as I can get to attempt that: If you recall, 360 sales boosted massively on the strength of the slim model, as well as Black Ops and Halo. Black Ops propelled 360 to 540,000 units from 375,000. On the week of Kinect, 360 sales boosted only to 375,000 from 223,000, and this was still nearing the holiday season. Even the release of Halo Reach brought 360 sales to 270,000 up from 161,000 the week before, and this was back in September, long before the holidays. Now lets look at last year at this exact same time for some perspective.. Last year the week of Dec. 12th, Xbox 360 sold 538,000, somewhat comparable sales to this year, and this was before the slim model.

Funny how fast people forget their history, especially when that history is only months old.. But I guess it's easy for people to forget things when it doesn't suit their purposes.

Remember, it is always always always GAMES that sell hardware, not peripherals. People are not running out and spending $300 to buy a motion camera peripheral, especially one that currently supports 15 games, most of which are rated below 70%.



4k1x3r said:
7
Gran Turismo 5 (PS3)
Sony Computer Entertainment
3 680,736 3,630,713
27
Forza Motorsport 3 (X360)
Microsoft
60 192,066 3,932,694

so 4 weeks of GT5 will equal to 61 weeks of Forza3? x)

And Kinect Adventures will easily cross 5M by the end of the year, will be around 5.2/5.6


And 1 day of Halo Reach embarrases Killzone 2 after 93 weeks.



Biddles said:
4k1x3r said:
7
Gran Turismo 5 (PS3)
Sony Computer Entertainment
3 680,736 3,630,713
27
Forza Motorsport 3 (X360)
Microsoft
60 192,066 3,932,694

so 4 weeks of GT5 will equal to 61 weeks of Forza3? x)

And Kinect Adventures will easily cross 5M by the end of the year, will be around 5.2/5.6


And 1 day of Halo Reach embarrases Killzone 2 after 93 weeks.

*sigh*



Very nice week.

Wii, DS, MHF3 and WoW:C excellent.

XB360, PS3, GT5, Kinect, DKCR (*) and NSMBW very good.

PSP good.

(*) Could it be better somewhere or not? What's a Ninokuni Shikkkakkkokkku Whateva? And is it supposed to sell better than a long awaited Donkey Klutz Clan Riot?



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RFOL @ san andreas still selling.

GT5 continues to put out amazing sales!!

PS3 and 360 hardware GAP is smaller this week!!

Wii is just a monster.....



Looking @ GT5 sales it should hit 4.5m by years end or more.



4k1x3r said:
7
Gran Turismo 5 (PS3)
Sony Computer Entertainment
3 680,736 3,630,713
27
Forza Motorsport 3 (X360)
Microsoft
60 192,066 3,932,694

so 4 weeks of GT5 will equal to 61 weeks of Forza3? x)

And Kinect Adventures will easily cross 5M by the end of the year, will be around 5.2/5.6

Forza series has never been a large sellers. It's been like that since it was released on the original XBox. GT5 is still not going to beat GT3 or GT4 in sales. Mario Kart is still the clear winner in sales for racing games by a large margin. It has almost doubed GT3 14 million sales.

The gap between the 360 and P33 continues to grow.  I wonder what will happen when the XBox 360 is $150 next year?



LivingMetal said:
leatherhat said:

Move VS Kinect, whoever wins- we all lose


Actually, I agree with you.  Just ignore my Move sig.  It was more for fun.


I'm sure Sony appreciates you running free ad banners for them in your sig.



I thought Blizzard reported bigger sales than 2.2 million...I know this is reporting retail, but the publisher has already said a MUCH higher number, so this is already outdated.   



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