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Funny. As far as I know, Hitler didn't believe in God (there are arguments on virtually every side, but paint Hitler as becoming increasingly anti-God as his regeme went on). The rerort will be brutal against that add too - I'd imagine the Catholics could put Mother Theresa on a side of a bus with "Believes in God" alongside Stalin or Pol Pot as being atheists.

The other ads - I don't really have a problem with. If you want to debate and argue religion, thats fine. Just don't lie about it.



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Farmageddon said:

Following UK, USA and Spain, Brazil's ATEA (brazilian Association of Atheist And Agnostics) will have ads on buses in Porto Alegre eand Salvador for a month, maybe more if they can get the money.

The Association tried to do the same in São Paulo, but the bus company refused. These are the images of the four ads to be used:

Upper-left reads: In light green background: "Doesn't believe in God". In red background: "Believes in God" . On Darker green: Religion does not define character. In Yellow (same for all images): "Say no to the prejudice against atheists".

Upper right: red: "If God exists, everything is allowed."

Bottom-left: light-green: "Faith gives no answers. It just stops questions."

Bottom-right: red: "We're all atheists with other people's Gods"

So, what do you think?

Too offensive? Maybe just asking for more trouble? Or is it a good wake-up call?

 

It is kind of offensive (ninja'd). I've seen advertising going the other way with just as strong  a message.

In fact, the other day I was stopped by three muslims (initially one) handing out free Qurans at my University (I got mine). They asked me whether I was atheist and when I said yes they told that atheism inevitably leads to murder, and then began to reel off a list of atheist murderers and genocidal maniacs.

Now that's pretty damn offensive because I wouldn't hurt a fly, which is why I like the "Religion does not define character" sentiment of one of the adverts. But for the same reason I hate the advert that says "If God exists then everything is allowed", because that's the sentiment that offended me in the first place and it would be hypocritical of me to send that back in their direction and claim it's ok.

(Actually does anyone else think those two are mutually exclusive?)

Also, "We're all atheists to other people's gods" is so true (even though it is repeated a little too much).



primogen18 said:

I think this is great. I am sick and tired of seeing dozens upon dozens of "in your face" or "shock" christianity ads.  If  a picture of a red bloody flatline with the message "when you die,  you meet god" and things of that nature can be on billboards then I can't see why these couldn't either. Nobody deserves complete dominance over public advertisement but I am sure there is public out-rage about these and they would be set on fire in the US because extremists can't get it through their head other people exist too.


While I agree that I am tired of religion getting shoved down by throat - (I am pretty much N/A when it comes to religious stance, but was originally groomed into the islamic faith) - but these ads are going about it all wrong. They poorly done and horribly executed. Athisim is just becoming another religion which is forcing down views on to others. Just this religion isn't a religion.



 

Stefan.De.Machtige said:

What a waste of money!

There were many times in  history where people could reject religion. But they chose not to, and they still do today. Religion is just part of the human psyche.

 

By the way, hitler was an atheist. At the end of the war, he wanted the german people to die with him, because... the best had fallen, and germany was proven weak and therfore needed to be destroyed. The whole Russian invasion was one best examples of Darwanism in human history.

Ah I see. The Sovjets are another (atheist) species.



highwaystar101 said:
Farmageddon said:

Following UK, USA and Spain, Brazil's ATEA (brazilian Association of Atheist And Agnostics) will have ads on buses in Porto Alegre eand Salvador for a month, maybe more if they can get the money.

The Association tried to do the same in São Paulo, but the bus company refused. These are the images of the four ads to be used:

Upper-left reads: In light green background: "Doesn't believe in God". In red background: "Believes in God" . On Darker green: Religion does not define character. In Yellow (same for all images): "Say no to the prejudice against atheists".

Upper right: red: "If God exists, everything is allowed."

Bottom-left: light-green: "Faith gives no answers. It just stops questions."

Bottom-right: red: "We're all atheists with other people's Gods"

So, what do you think?

Too offensive? Maybe just asking for more trouble? Or is it a good wake-up call?

 

I wouldn't say it's offensive, I've seen advertising going the other way with just as strong  a message.

In fact, the other day I was stopped by three muslims (initially one) handing out free Qurans at my University (I got mine). They asked me whether I was atheist and when I said yes they told that atheism inevitably leads to murder, and then began to reel off a list of atheist murderers and genocidal maniacs.

Now that's pretty damn offensive because I wouldn't hurt a fly, which is why I like the "Religion does not define character" sentiment of one of the adverts. But for the same reason I hate the advert that says "If God exists then everything is allowed", because that's the sentiment that offended me in the first place and it would be hypocritical of me to send that back in their direction and claim it's ok.

Also, "We're all atheists to other people's gods" is so true (even though it is repeated a little too much).

I can't believe they did that to you. That is like the pot calling the kettle black.



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While I disagree with their faith in no God, I like the fact they can represent their beliefs without resorting to defaming attacks and ignorance. Wish all faiths could do the same when they discuss their points of view over others. Especially those within my circle. Islam is currently the worst at discussing questionable aspects of religion. The only way to progress as a species is to ask questions and have constant dialogue.



I always think it's funny when atheists and Christians argue about Hitler. I mean, there is strong evidence pointing many ways, so it's all a little unclear; but I always find the situation of "No he's yours!", No, he's yours!" a little funny.

He was clearly raised as a Catholic and had many Catholic influences in his life. But then again he clearly rejected Catholicism at later points in his life. But I don't think he was an atheist either. He often used to use atheism as propaganda against the soviets and socialism, and was certainly very hostile to atheism and atheists on a number of occasions and was massively opposed to state atheism.

I don't know what he was, but I'm pretty certain he wasn't either atheist or christian.



I have no problem with promoting a religion or belief, but how can you promote the lack of a religion or belief without looking like you're attacking others?

That I have a problem with.

(NOTE-- I can't read those signs, I'm only guessing)

-edit-

Whoops, just saw the translations, thought that was his sig for some reason.  Some of them I don't have a problem with, some I do.  I'm all for believing in or not believing in whatever you want, but please don't mock my beliefs.



non-gravity said:
Stefan.De.Machtige said:

What a waste of money!

There were many times in  history where people could reject religion. But they chose not to, and they still do today. Religion is just part of the human psyche.

 

By the way, hitler was an atheist. At the end of the war, he wanted the german people to die with him, because... the best had fallen, and germany was proven weak and therfore needed to be destroyed. The whole Russian invasion was one best examples of Darwanism in human history.

Ah I see. The Sovjets are another (atheist) species.

Exactly.



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About Hitler, ok, there are two versions about what Hitler was religion-wise, but it doesn't matter, because at the end of the day, the salute was "Heil Hitler!!!", not "Heil Jesus" or "Heil Allah" or "Heil no God", Hitler was god to most of Nazi Germany, so it was a religion on its own...

But what i don't like about the "Hitler-is-something" sigs (both religious and atheist) is that plays on people's hate so easy, ok, Hitler was many things, but does it mean that i have to hate his mustache style? or the way he ate? (he was the most healthy of the world leaders at that time) or i cannot use a swastika anymore? (even if i don't use the same design as the nazis) and every time i have an argument, i have to use the Godwin's law to win that argument? i don't think so...

About the other signs, i liked a lot the "We are all atheist on other people's gods", that one is cool, and the message "Religion does not define character" is also good...