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Cross-X on 11 December 2010

My impressions.

 

- Red Dead Redemption Deserved GOTY 2010. No denying that.

- Kinda was buggered to see John Marston's VA not getting the Best VA Award or Gary Oldman for Reznov.

- God of War III didn't get any awards and so didn't Halo Reach...

 

Actual Games:

I WAS MIND BLOWN BY:

- UNCHARTED 3

- MASS EFFECT 3

- RESISTANCE 3

- BATMAN ARKHAM CITY

- ELDER SCROLLS V: SKYRIM

 

Prototype 2 looks exactly like Prototype 1 so don't give a shit. Forza 4 obviously I don't give a shit either along with SSX.

I was expecting more from Del Toro's Game and since it's Horror, I'm gonna pass.

And what was the Zombie Game VGA was teasing about the whole time?



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Bong Lover on 11 December 2010
Vetteman94 said:
Bong Lover said:
Vetteman94 said:
Bong Lover said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
Boutros said:

Naughty Dog: "Yes Uncharted 3 Trailer was all from in-Engine (plus) Actual Gameplay"

http://www.tqcast.com/2010/12/11/naughty-dog-yes-uncharted-3-trailer-was-all-from-in-engine-actual-gameplay/


O_O i think we can all agree this looks to be the best looking console video game ever created ^^ 

 

We can not. Against my better judgment I watched the trailer and as I suspected it looks like utter crap. Another step down the wrong path when it comes to game graphics.

The more developers try to make their games look 'realistic' the more we're served insults like this trailer. I see people drooling over the water effects. Here is a tip for you, if you play a game to watch natural looking flowing water try watching the Discovery Channel instead. The water effects there are infinitely better and will be so forever. For Christ out loud! They can't even produce a convincing model of the human body, let alone make it move like something that looks even remotely natural. Why do they keep doing this? All they are achieving is making the game look devoid of soul. Anyone who as ever actually been outside will immediately be able to see how hopelessly primitive this graphics are compared to what they are trying to model.

Photorealism like this is a GIANT waste of time. It will never ever look good, and is nothing but a distraction from the game. If the resources sunk into the graphics of this game had been used on creating a game instead it could have been amazing. Of course, actual game design is quite difficult and requires the ability to have an original thought. That is probably why they didn't bother trying that.

Yes because games like Uncharted, Halo Reach and God of War III lack things that could make it amazing because they focused so much on the graphics.  


I agree. They are basically without a single original idea. Upgraded presentation, repackaged content. The same thing that has all but killed Hollywood is now destroying gaming.

I was being sarcastic, in case you were too high o figure it out.  Because I think your entire argument is stupid.  Pushing the graphics limits for those games didnt stop them from being amazing,  nothing did.  The game developers made them amazing.    But I imagine this is where you tell me we should still be playing games with 2D sprites instead of these 3D games?   


Not in the least. My argument is that when you design a game, the focus should be on making a game not on how it looks. Spending time on creating a beautiful presentation is fine, as long as the game is the starting point. My issue is with the trend in videogames to push for graphics as the main point of creating a game. This leads to the same game being created over and over with updated presentation. And yes, in my opinion the games you have mentioned are all guilty of this to some degree.

As a side point, kudos for at least touching on the actual argument I made instead of making irrelavant digs at my user name.



Bong Lover on 11 December 2010
LivingMetal said:
Bong Lover said:
psrock said:
Bong Lover said:
psrock said:
Bong Lover said:
psrock said:
 

bong lover, huh?

Me and Miley Cyrus.

obviously, how high are you right now?

That is irrelevant. I stand by my argument. My avatar or username really doesn't have anything to do with the point I am making.

I disagree, it has everything to do with your statement.

I have proof =   Your statement.

By that rational I have proof that you are an ass based on your avatar?

Candy ass to be more precise.

Hehe, I wish I had thought of that. Well played!



MaxwellGT2000 on 11 December 2010

VGAs... as always just a waste of time, space, and money... it's like if I wanted to watch ads for games for 2 hours I'd look at banner ads for sites, or better yet the ads on Gametrailers showing the trailers the VGAs show but at least they don't disguise the ads as a legit award show.

Every year I hate the announcers they find under some C list celeb rock that can't even read from a teleprompter in a somewhat believable fashion.  I don't even think they rehearse any of it, it's a joke.  

If it means anything at all congrats to Red Dead Redemption for getting recognition, one of the many games this year deserving of GOTY status, sadly most games that deserved nominations didn't even make it because it wasn't hyped at all.



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LivingMetal on 11 December 2010
MaxwellGT2000 said:

VGAs... as always just a waste of time, space, and money...


That is why I do NOT watch the VGA's, let everyone else suffer through it, and read THEIR reports.  It prolongs my need for blood pressure medicine or depression medicine.  Wait... I'm on Paxil.  Nevermind.



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Lyrikalstylez on 11 December 2010

Other Than Uncharted3 and Mass Effect3.....Im dissapointed because I already knew they where coming!!!

damn you MS Sony keeps on bringing the games and you bring out FORZA!!!!

WAY TO FREAKING DISSAPOINT 360 FANS



Vetteman94 on 11 December 2010
Bong Lover said:
Vetteman94 said:
Bong Lover said:
Vetteman94 said:
Bong Lover said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
Boutros said:

Naughty Dog: "Yes Uncharted 3 Trailer was all from in-Engine (plus) Actual Gameplay"

http://www.tqcast.com/2010/12/11/naughty-dog-yes-uncharted-3-trailer-was-all-from-in-engine-actual-gameplay/


O_O i think we can all agree this looks to be the best looking console video game ever created ^^ 

 

We can not. Against my better judgment I watched the trailer and as I suspected it looks like utter crap. Another step down the wrong path when it comes to game graphics.

The more developers try to make their games look 'realistic' the more we're served insults like this trailer. I see people drooling over the water effects. Here is a tip for you, if you play a game to watch natural looking flowing water try watching the Discovery Channel instead. The water effects there are infinitely better and will be so forever. For Christ out loud! They can't even produce a convincing model of the human body, let alone make it move like something that looks even remotely natural. Why do they keep doing this? All they are achieving is making the game look devoid of soul. Anyone who as ever actually been outside will immediately be able to see how hopelessly primitive this graphics are compared to what they are trying to model.

Photorealism like this is a GIANT waste of time. It will never ever look good, and is nothing but a distraction from the game. If the resources sunk into the graphics of this game had been used on creating a game instead it could have been amazing. Of course, actual game design is quite difficult and requires the ability to have an original thought. That is probably why they didn't bother trying that.

Yes because games like Uncharted, Halo Reach and God of War III lack things that could make it amazing because they focused so much on the graphics.  


I agree. They are basically without a single original idea. Upgraded presentation, repackaged content. The same thing that has all but killed Hollywood is now destroying gaming.

I was being sarcastic, in case you were too high o figure it out.  Because I think your entire argument is stupid.  Pushing the graphics limits for those games didnt stop them from being amazing,  nothing did.  The game developers made them amazing.    But I imagine this is where you tell me we should still be playing games with 2D sprites instead of these 3D games?   


Not in the least. My argument is that when you design a game, the focus should be on making a game not on how it looks. Spending time on creating a beautiful presentation is fine, as long as the game is the starting point. My issue is with the trend in videogames to push for graphics as the main point of creating a game. This leads to the same game being created over and over with updated presentation. And yes, in my opinion the games you have mentioned are all guilty of this to some degree.

As a side point, kudos for at least touching on the actual argument I made instead of making irrelavant digs at my user name.

While I still disagree with you I would like yo to point me out a few instances where the same game isnt being created over and over again?   This also has to at least a good game, because a game isnt good just because its different.



LivingMetal on 11 December 2010
Lyrikalstylez said:

Other Than Uncharted3 and Mass Effect3.....Im dissapointed because I already knew they where coming!!!

damn you MS Sony keeps on bringing the games and you bring out FORZA!!!!

WAY TO FREAKING DISSAPOINT 360 FANS


Microsoft needs to buy out more developers.  But seriously according to your sig, you have both an Xbox 360 and a PS3.  So you're set.  Congrats, man.



Vetteman94 on 11 December 2010
Cross-X said:

My impressions.

 

- Red Dead Redemption Deserved GOTY 2010. No denying that.

- Kinda was buggered to see John Marston's VA not getting the Best VA Award or Gary Oldman for Reznov.

- God of War III didn't get any awards and so didn't Halo Reach...

 

Actual Games:

I WAS MIND BLOWN BY:

- UNCHARTED 3

- MASS EFFECT 3

- RESISTANCE 3

- BATMAN ARKHAM CITY

- ELDER SCROLLS V: SKYRIM

 

Prototype 2 looks exactly like Prototype 1 so don't give a shit. Forza 4 obviously I don't give a shit either along with SSX.

I was expecting more from Del Toro's Game and since it's Horror, I'm gonna pass.

And what was the Zombie Game VGA was teasing about the whole time?

I'll deny it,  it didnt deserve it.  Im just glad it wasnt Black Ops



Cross-X on 11 December 2010
Vetteman94 said:
Cross-X said:

My impressions.

 

- Red Dead Redemption Deserved GOTY 2010. No denying that.

- Kinda was buggered to see John Marston's VA not getting the Best VA Award or Gary Oldman for Reznov.

- God of War III didn't get any awards and so didn't Halo Reach...

 

Actual Games:

I WAS MIND BLOWN BY:

- UNCHARTED 3

- MASS EFFECT 3

- RESISTANCE 3

- BATMAN ARKHAM CITY

- ELDER SCROLLS V: SKYRIM

 

Prototype 2 looks exactly like Prototype 1 so don't give a shit. Forza 4 obviously I don't give a shit either along with SSX.

I was expecting more from Del Toro's Game and since it's Horror, I'm gonna pass.

And what was the Zombie Game VGA was teasing about the whole time?

I'll deny it,  it didnt deserve it.  Im just glad it wasnt Black Ops

Well I actually didn't care whether RDR or GOW III or ME 2 got the GOTY. I also was very happy that Black Ops didn't get it because I seriously don't understand why it was in that catagory in the first place. Good game but not GOTY Contender.

I assume that you would've wanted Heavy Rain as GOTY?