The "10 year cycle" also includes the release in countries which havn't got it yet, such middle-eastern ones. I think Sony said before that it was a market which contributed alot to PS2 sales. That is how PS2 still gets the sales it does.

Of course not. Sony is gonna get bought by Apple and they are going to launch the iPlay console, which will sell one bazillion LT.

lol PS4 will certainly not come out in 2017, or even 2015. If Sony waits that long, surely Nintendo and MS will have their new consoles out by then and Sony will have an insurmountable lead to catch up to, esentially dooming them to a 3rd place finish yet again. Sony will repsond when MS or Nintendo release theres, and I do believe one of these two will make the first move. MS will almost certainly move first if Kinect drops after the holiday and doesn't have a lasting effect. I think 2012 for both the next Xbox and Nintendo console, at which point Sony will be forced to respond and release the PS4 2013 the latest.

Sony will want to launch PS4 close to the Nextbox. By launching Kinect Microsoft ensured they won't launch another console for at least 2-3 years so that makes it end 2012-2013.

I can see Nintendo launching in early 2012- end 2012 at the earliest, but if I were Sony I wouldn't worry about them to much.

Sony should make plans for a launch in 2013

Totally agree with the OP, only i think if you look at the PS2, it will be a bit longer than 10 years, maybe 15 althogether.

the problem i think people dont realise is that from a buisness sense, Microsoft and Sony are getting beaten by a console, thats what? over 10 years out of date; the Wii. the mass consumer certainly dosent care for the hardware specs or graphics. so why are MS and Sony going to release new hardware with higher power thresholds, when their current hardware is being outsold, by a much weaker console.

and the other thing is the games, the reason the PS2 became obsolete is because of the advent of HD and hardware that could do something, much, much more powerful. at the moment the hardware is out of date from a PC standpoint, but its fit for purpose, because PC gaming is too expensive for the general consumer, including myself.

the size of the blu ray, and the ability of HD, means developers can make games like FF13 or Demon's Souls; of about 100 hours in HD quality with huge scale and scope. i dont see the point of new consoles, because its just a graphical improvement in this, and imo theres a point now (like in GT5), where some things look better than real life, so imo PS3 is going noware soon. oh and the developers havent unlocked the full power of the console imo.

But why are Sony forced? if Kinect fails, after the holidays your saying that Microsoft are forced into the 720. okay fair enough.

but for the 720 to be a step up over the PS3, it will have to be more powerful and thus more expensive than the PS3. its Microsoft and Nintendo that will have to compete to aquire a new userbase, the PS3 can compete with those new consoles in terms of power, games and price point. why throw this away?

imo if this does happen, PS3 will simple compete with the 720 and Wii2, because the console will still be comparatively the same in power, more powerful than the Wii 2. it already has blu ray which Microsoft dosent endorse, and it will be cheaper. i dont see why this wont end up like the Dreamcast scenario.

You're suggesting that they'll possibly wait five years? There's no way Sony would wait that long after the launch of Nintendo's next console to enter the next generation. Wii 2 could sell 100million in that five years, and the war is over before Sony have even made it to the front lines...

I dont mind at all if PS4 doesnt arrive soon.  There's just so many things to do with PS3 right now i dont think i can handle a next gen console yet.

YES!! thank god someone else who sees this from the way song will see it! they have no need to produce a PS4 for about 5 years! thank god you came into this thread

Hahahaha, I love when people talk like that.  Why on Earth would Kinect, the hottest new item this season, suddenly drop in demand after this holiday?  It's just a statement that we've seen consistently here in the community that, honestly, is borderline trolling because there is NO evidence of something this  hot suddenly dropping off the radar.  Move isn't selling like Kinect and people aren't even talking about IT dropping off the map.

Please, everyone, just stop with the "if Kinect demand drops after holiday" talk.  For the sake of all that's holy PLEASE.