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lol PS4 will certainly not come out in 2017, or even 2015. If Sony waits that long, surely Nintendo and MS will have their new consoles out by then and Sony will have an insurmountable lead to catch up to, esentially dooming them to a 3rd place finish yet again. Sony will repsond when MS or Nintendo release theres, and I do believe one of these two will make the first move. MS will almost certainly move first if Kinect drops after the holiday and doesn't have a lasting effect. I think 2012 for both the next Xbox and Nintendo console, at which point Sony will be forced to respond and release the PS4 2013 the latest.