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draik said:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/dec/09/qatar-2022-world-cup-neighbouring-countries


If it was about expanding the game... you'd expect them to go to the US too though.  Like the entire Middle East combined has about an equal population to the US.  Including Turkey, where the game has already expanded.  Plus he's missing the point that people don't think it was that FIFA wanted to make money.  They think it was because Sepp Blatter and some Fifa officials wanted to make money.

Well... dodging i should say.



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Kasz216 said:
draik said:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/dec/09/qatar-2022-world-cup-neighbouring-countries


If it was about expanding the game... you'd expect them to go to the US too though.  Like the entire Middle East combined has about an equal population to the US.  Including Turkey, where the game has already expanded.  Plus he's missing the point that people don't think it was that FIFA wanted to make money.  They think it was because Sepp Blatter and some Fifa officials wanted to make money.

Well... dodging i should say.


I honestly don't think the game could "expand" as quickly in the U.S. as in the middle east. I don't think Americans will ever embrace soccer, unless they first win the world cup or something. Which wouldn't happen unless they were already in to it.



 

 

Kasz216 said:
pizzahut451 said:
Kasz216 said:

Except... all the stats seem to show it hasn't... it doesn't help the countries economically and "smaller market" teams seem to shrink from the pressure rather then improve.

Heck, look at South Africa.  Anywhere else in the world... I think they preform better then they did.


Africa as a whole underperformed.  Everyone thought Africa would get a boost like Europeon and South American teams get, but in the end they cracked under the pressure and if anything played worse.

Having home field advantage in the cup only helps a team if the team has the swagger and belief they deserve to be there in the first place.  Otherwise they're just worried about surviving long enough to not embaress themselves.

You gotta be in it to win it.

1930 Uruguay host = Uruguay wom

1934 Italy host = Italy won

1966 England host = England won

1974 Germany host = Germany won

1978 Argentina host=Argentina won

1998 France host = France won

2002 South Korea host= South Korea 4th (their best achivment yet, i believe)

Theres your stats...

Yes, outside of South Korea... a bunch of top rate teams won, when they had the World Cup at home.

How does this change the fact that most of the other "weak hosts" greatly floundered?

South Africa should of made it out of the first round for sure.


Though granted, Qatar will have the best outcome ever in a world cup, simply because they wouldn't of ever made the world cup without ever hosting it.

I dont know if anyone still checks this thread up, but I'll give it a shot anyway. I didnt try to prove that ''weaker'' teams perform better when they are hosting, but that the hosting alone HELPS the national team (as well as putting them in pressure) put a better performance. There are both bad sides but more good sides for hosting World Cup.

And how many ''weak hosts'' even hosted WC to beginn with ??? Until 2002 (where South Korea, the host, achived 4th place), every WC was played in top rated European or South American country anyway (with the exception of USA). FIFA just started spreading competition around the world.

As for South Africa...they defeated France didnt they :) ? The team who was 2nd in 2006 WC, loosing in penalties with 1 player less on the field.



JazzyJeez said:
pizzahut451 said:
Kasz216 said:

Except... all the stats seem to show it hasn't... it doesn't help the countries economically and "smaller market" teams seem to shrink from the pressure rather then improve.

Heck, look at South Africa.  Anywhere else in the world... I think they preform better then they did.


Africa as a whole underperformed.  Everyone thought Africa would get a boost like Europeon and South American teams get, but in the end they cracked under the pressure and if anything played worse.

Having home field advantage in the cup only helps a team if the team has the swagger and belief they deserve to be there in the first place.  Otherwise they're just worried about surviving long enough to not embaress themselves.

You gotta be in it to win it.

1930 Uruguay host = Uruguay wom

1934 Italy host = Italy won

1966 England host = England won

1974 Germany host = Germany won

1978 Argentina host=Argentina won

1998 France host = France won

2002 South Korea host= South Korea 4th (their best achivment yet, i believe)

Theres your stats...

 

Them 'Stats' show nothing, Uruguay boycotted the 1934 WC, in 1938 France held the WC, holders Italy retained it.

After '66 England got knocked out in the quarters in '70 by W.germany who then went onto host it and win the next WC.

I could go in more detail about past WC results and winners, but if anything all your stats show is you've got to be good enough to win it in the first place. 

Other than that abnormal S.korea result who by the way Spain were completely robbed when they played S.korea, all winners tend to be good enough to win regardless of who hosted it.


W...what? How is anything you said supposed to disporeve my list ?



When was the last time the United States hosted this?



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kowenicki said:

What a tool Blatter is.... 

 

 

Qatar 2022 World Cup award may be a mistake, says Sepp Blatter

Fifa may have made a "mistake" in awarding the 2022 World Cup to Qatar, according to president Sepp Blatter.

Summer temperatures can reach 50C in the Middle Eastern country.

Football Association chairman Greg Dyke said it would be "impossible"to play in such conditions, and Blatter wants the tournament moved to the winter.

Asked by insideworldfootball.com  about awarding Qatar the tournament, the 77-year-old said: "It may well be that we made a mistake at the time."

Blatter, who in May said it was "not rational" to play the World Cup in Qatar in June and July, added: "On the other hand, you must also consider political and geo-political realities.

"The World Cup is Fifa's biggest, if not only, global event. Who are we, the Europeans, to demand that this event has to cater to the needs of 800million Europeans above all?

"I think it is high time that Europe starts to understand that we do not rule the world anymore, and that some former European imperial powers can no longer impress their will onto others in far away places.

"We must accept that football has moved away from being a European and South American sport - it has become the world sport that billions of fans are excitedly following every week, everywhere in the world."

Blatter hopes Fifa's executive committee will follow his proposal to switch the tournament to the winter when it meets next month.

Should that be the case, the Swiss added: "The next steps will include a close look at the international calendar and to establish what consequences the change would have.

"And we would naturally need to speak to and consult with all interested parties and stakeholders."

Premier League chief executive Richard Scudamore said in July  that switching the 2022 World Cup to winter would cause "absolute chaos" for football leagues around the world.

Qatar defeated bids from South Korea, Japan, Australia and the United States to win a ballot of Fifa's 22 executive members in 2010 to host the tournament.

 

How does a governing body with this level of responsibility not take into account the weather, one of the first things that should be looked at?  I'm not really a soccer fan, is FIFA really this corrupt?



Canada 2022!!!



Just ridiculous that Australia wasn't awarded the World Cup,. I honestly have other issues with Qatar than the weather.



Good luck getting all Major league's to play a World cup DURING a league season. Complete and utter shambles.



NobleTeam360 said:
When was the last time the United States hosted this?

1994.

 

OT: League, WC, CL, UEFA and national cups at the same time? With players from everywhere traveling to Qatar to play WC and then going back to their countries for every WC match? Madness.