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Jadedx said:
ethomaz said:
D-Joe said:
ethomaz said:
John_Doe said:

so hell! the 2,5 million kinect are shipped? sold to customers? if so, haw MS knows that...

2.5m shipped.

But like the sales is huge now the real sold numbers are near theses 2.5m.

sorry but it's sold not shipped

Unless the whole retail was reporting sales to Microsoft (not impossible but improbable) the only numbers they have are "sold to retail".

Nintendo is the only company of the big three who has a tracking system company and only releases its numbers on fiscal quartil.

Its the same as last time, MS CONFIRMED ITS NOT SOLD TO RETAIL, but SOLD TO CONSUMERS. Either you are doing this just to downplay the numbers and get a rise out of people (they have a name for those people), or you are just daft.

And they confirmed it how? Not like it would be the first time MS lied in a press statement "360 is well within industry standards"



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D-Joe, they can't lie to shareholders, but shareholders get "sold to retailers numbers". Ms said kinects sold 2,5M "retail sales" so this is obviously an estimation.



I dont see anything that suggests those are sold through numbers.... except when he said restock shelves... (But then when there is stock on the shelf they wont know whats sold through)



ethomaz said:
Jadedx said:
ethomaz said:
D-Joe said:
ethomaz said:
John_Doe said:

so hell! the 2,5 million kinect are shipped? sold to customers? if so, haw MS knows that...

2.5m shipped.

But like the sales is huge now the real sold numbers are near theses 2.5m.

sorry but it's sold not shipped

Unless the whole retail was reporting sales to Microsoft (not impossible but improbable) the only numbers they have are "sold to retail".

Nintendo is the only company of the big three who has a tracking system company and only releases its numbers on fiscal quartil.

Its the same as last time, MS CONFIRMED ITS NOT SOLD TO RETAIL, but SOLD TO CONSUMERS. Either you are doing this just to downplay the numbers and get a rise out of people (they have a name for those people), or you are just daft.

Where? The article is not clear for me.

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2010/nov10/11-29msxboxblackfridaymopr.mspx

Article says:

"we are on pace to reach our forecast of 5 million units sold to consumers this holiday.”

http://twitter.com/aarongreenberg/status/9382554499031040 - Aaron Greenberg confirmation



Jadedx said:
ethomaz said:
Jadedx said:
ethomaz said:
D-Joe said:
ethomaz said:
John_Doe said:

so hell! the 2,5 million kinect are shipped? sold to customers? if so, haw MS knows that...

2.5m shipped.

But like the sales is huge now the real sold numbers are near theses 2.5m.

sorry but it's sold not shipped

Unless the whole retail was reporting sales to Microsoft (not impossible but improbable) the only numbers they have are "sold to retail".

Nintendo is the only company of the big three who has a tracking system company and only releases its numbers on fiscal quartil.

Its the same as last time, MS CONFIRMED ITS NOT SOLD TO RETAIL, but SOLD TO CONSUMERS. Either you are doing this just to downplay the numbers and get a rise out of people (they have a name for those people), or you are just daft.

Where? The article is not clear for me.

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2010/nov10/11-29msxboxblackfridaymopr.mspx

Article says:

"we are on pace to reach our forecast of 5 million units sold to consumers this holiday.”

http://twitter.com/aarongreenberg/status/9382554499031040 - Aaron Greenberg confirmation

What? That is a estimation for end of year... read the article again.

And Twitter? People lies in twitter... in official reports not.



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Jadedx said:
ethomaz said:
Jadedx said:
ethomaz said:
D-Joe said:
ethomaz said:
John_Doe said:

so hell! the 2,5 million kinect are shipped? sold to customers? if so, haw MS knows that...

2.5m shipped.

But like the sales is huge now the real sold numbers are near theses 2.5m.

sorry but it's sold not shipped

Unless the whole retail was reporting sales to Microsoft (not impossible but improbable) the only numbers they have are "sold to retail".

Nintendo is the only company of the big three who has a tracking system company and only releases its numbers on fiscal quartil.

Its the same as last time, MS CONFIRMED ITS NOT SOLD TO RETAIL, but SOLD TO CONSUMERS. Either you are doing this just to downplay the numbers and get a rise out of people (they have a name for those people), or you are just daft.

Where? The article is not clear for me.

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2010/nov10/11-29msxboxblackfridaymopr.mspx

Article says:

"we are on pace to reach our forecast of 5 million units sold to consumers this holiday.”

http://twitter.com/aarongreenberg/status/9382554499031040 - Aaron Greenberg confirmation

 

5 million to consumers is a goal, and they will know when they reach that goal when they ship more than 5 million. It doesn't mean they are tracking every unit sold. They know their sell through because of stock levels (Which are low) compared to shipments. Nintendo is the only company that has their own tracking agency and its set up through serial numbers on the box that you scan when you sell a unit.



Seriously you guys think NPD, GFK and Media Create can track sale numbers but MS can't? MS pays all of these companies money to track these sales.  They could easily call them up and ask how kinect is selling, its not that difficult.



You guys are not worth talking to, you're either trolls or just really slow.



Jadedx said:

You guys are not worth talking to, you're either trolls or just really slow.



This is the second time you insulted in this thread. /reported



Jadedx said:

Seriously you guys think NPD, GFK and Media Create can track sale numbers but MS can't? MS pays all of these companies money to track these sales.  They could easily call them up and ask how kinect is selling, its not that difficult.


http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2010/nov10/11-29msxboxblackfridaymopr.mspx

"Kinect is now available at more than 60,000 retailers in 38 countries"

Do you even read the articles ever?