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Also, if you are wondering why Sweden may want to prosecute all rape cases....

it's probably because Sweden is #1 in the EU when it comes to rape.  (Which their definition of rape is the same as the US, despite what you may have read.)

He'd be charged with the same crimes in the US, and pretty much everywhere else in the western world.



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Kasz, just drop it. A condom accidentally raping = guy rapes woman?

Guy forgetting to use condom and woman not caring = guy rapes woman?

Seriosuly, shut the f**k up!

EDIT: This post, and in relation to the ones which follow, have been moderated. -d1



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sapphi_snake said:

Kasz, just drop it. A condom accidentally raping = guy rapes woman?

Guy forgetting to use condom and woman not caring = guy rapes woman?

Seriosuly, shut the f**k up!

 
A guy initating sex with an unconsious woman is rape.  If you can't see that... I don't know what's wrong with you.  Though yeah, he'd be charged with rape anywhere in the EU... and the US for intiating sex without a condom on an unconsious woman.



Kasz216 said:
sapphi_snake said:

Kasz, just drop it. A condom accidentally raping = guy rapes woman?

Guy forgetting to use condom and woman not caring = guy rapes woman?

Seriosuly, shut the f**k up!


A guy initating sex with an unconsious woman is rape.  If you can't see that... I don't know what's wrong with you.

She wan't unconscious. She was sleeping! Next to him. After they had just had sex the previous night!!! And she didn't stop him when she regained consciousness. What rape went on? You are the most delusional person I've ever met.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

sapphi_snake said:
Kasz216 said:
sapphi_snake said:

Kasz, just drop it. A condom accidentally raping = guy rapes woman?

Guy forgetting to use condom and woman not caring = guy rapes woman?

Seriosuly, shut the f**k up!


A guy initating sex with an unconsious woman is rape.  If you can't see that... I don't know what's wrong with you.

She wan't unconscious. She was sleeping! Next to him. After they had just had sex the previous night!!! And she didn't stop him when she regained consciousness. What rape went on? You are the most delusional person I've ever met.

Uh... sleeping people are unconsious?



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"If you still don't get it, even if she gave consent after she woke up... everything preceding her giving consent is still rape."

This is the latest IM Kasz sent me. Oh, how many "rapes" really do take place in the world.
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"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

sapphi_snake said:

"If you still don't get it, even if she gave consent after she woke up... everything preceding her giving consent is still rape."

This is the latest IM Kasz sent me. Oh, how many "rapes" really do take place in the world.
Comments please.


Which is the actual case. (FYI posting private messages can get you banned.  If you want me to post something i said in a message let me know as I was about to go over the same thing in this thread anyway.)

If someone steals your couch, and later you give them permission to take everything in your house... they've still stolen your couch.

The only way waking up people with sex is legal, is if you've discussed it with your partner beforehand so you've received prior consent.  Which is actually an important lesson for people.


You can't comit an act, get permission afterwords and expect it to be legal.


PS: You do realize sleeping people are unconsious right, I think your letting your emotions stop yourself from thinking logically.



@ Khasz:

You should not dare call someone else illogical. You deserve a special award for thinking illogical and lacking any sense whatsoever.

First of all a robber is doing something illegal, while I can bet very few people (even "victims") would consider that situation rape, or something wrong.

All I have to say is this: Replace the girl with yourself, and Assange with your girlfriend. She should rot in jail, right?



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

sapphi_snake said:

@ Khasz:

You should not dare call someone else illogical. You deserve a special award for thinking illogical and lacking any sense whatsoever.

First of all a robber is doing something illegal, while I can bet very few people (even "victims") would consider that situation rape, or something wrong.

All I have to say is this: Replace the girl with yourself, and Assange with your girlfriend. She should rot in jail, right?

You said someone wasn't unconsious, they were asleep... what about that statement is logical to you?

Assange was doing something illegal.  I mean he is being charged with the crime, no?  It's something that will get you charged with a crime anywhere in the western world.

And if someone decided to start having sex with me without a condom when i specifically told them I only wanted to do so with protection... your damn right they should rot in jail.   I don't know what kind of sexual diseases they might be exposing me to... and what if I orgasmed and she got pregnant?  Then i've gotta pay child support when I specifically said I didn't want to have sex without a condom I mean what the fuck?  If I was a woman it'd be even worse...  needing an abortion or having to go through a pregnancy... not fun.

With a condom?  I wouldn't care, but plenty of people would, and I'm a pretty forgiving guy.  I wouldn't tell the police, but if they found out somehow, it's totally in their rights to prosecute.  You don't go easy on people who commit crimes to people who don't care about them because it sends the wrong message.

Either

A) It's your fault for thinking it's a big deal victim

or

B) You'll probably get lucky anyway everybody, so just test the system.

or both.



So far Ive heard nothing earth-shattering but I haven't been following this thoroughly. I'm surprised there's no bigger corruption going on behind the scenes of the diplomatic world. What are the biggest scandals revealed so far?

And yeah, Wikileaks are immoral bandits in my opinion. There is such a thing as secrecy.