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Andromeda 'born in a collision'

Animation showing the birth of Andromeda. Courtesy GEPI, Observatoire de Paris / NAOC

The nearest spiral galaxy to the Milky Way - Andromeda - was born when two smaller galaxies collided, say astronomers.

An international team conducted a computer simulation of how Andromeda evolved over time.

The results suggest that two galaxies collided some nine billion years ago and permanently fused about 5.5 billion years ago.

The study has been published in the Astrophysical Journal.

The lead author, Francois Hammer of the Paris Observatory, France, told BBC News that while scientists have been able to detect galaxies near the edge of the Universe, there many gaps in our knowledge of our immediate neighbourhood, known as the Local Group of galaxies.

The Local Group includes some 40 galaxies, of which the biggest are the Milky Way and Andromeda.

"Many astronomers, especially specialists in this field, thought that the Andromeda galaxy could be the result of a major merger," said Dr Hammer.

"However, this has never been tested and especially dated [until now]."

Dark matter insights

The researcher explained that his team's findings had "the potential to revise all our knowledge about the Local Group - and this may have also an impact regarding the amount of dark matter in galaxies".

Using a computer simulation, the astronomers were able to reproduce most of the peculiar properties of the Andromeda galaxy: the large thin disk including its giant ring of gas and dust, the massive central bulge, the gigantic thick galactic "disc", and the giant stream of old stars.

The work on Andromeda (pictured) could shed light on the formation of our own galaxy

The simulations were run on high performance computers at the National Astronomical Observatory of China (NAOC) and at the Paris Observatory.

The scientists used up to eight million particles to simulate stars, gas, and dark matter.

Dr Hammer said that the study could also provide insights into the formation of our own galaxy.

"It doesn't mean that the Milky Way could not have been formed this way - [maybe it has been], but [it would have happened] much earlier," he said.



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That's fascinating stuff. I love this sort of thing.



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Incredible, i know it was only briefly mentioned but i find it fascinating that scientists can detect glaxies on the edge of the know universe. but of course Andromeda in itself is a fascinating discovery.



A203D said:

Incredible, i know it was only briefly mentioned but i find it fascinating that scientists can detect glaxies on the edge of the know universe. but of course Andromeda in itself is a fascinating discovery.


Makes you wonder what else is out there.



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Snesboy said:
A203D said:

Incredible, i know it was only briefly mentioned but i find it fascinating that scientists can detect glaxies on the edge of the know universe. but of course Andromeda in itself is a fascinating discovery.


Makes you wonder what else is out there.


Well i actully saw a programe recently about what may have existed before the big bang, and based on what other scientisits think. and stephen hawkings multiverse theory; i think (with a degree of doubt of course) there are other universes and ours is possibily one of thousands, maybe millions.

my point is that if there is indeed an 'edge' of the universe, and scientists have evidence to say this, then the universe must be growing into something else. so it mean just that one part of the OP was more interesting to me than the whole article (no offense).

Edit: i just realised it was you highwaystar, the beard covered Data's face, lol. you already know what programe i'm talking about, i'm not supprised your the OP.



Thats really awesome.

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A203D said:
Snesboy said:
A203D said:

Incredible, i know it was only briefly mentioned but i find it fascinating that scientists can detect glaxies on the edge of the know universe. but of course Andromeda in itself is a fascinating discovery.


Makes you wonder what else is out there.


Well i actully saw a programe recently about what may have existed before the big bang, and based on what other scientisits think. and stephen hawkings multiverse theory; i think (with a degree of doubt of course) there are other universes and ours is possibily one of thousands, maybe millions.

my point is that if there is indeed an 'edge' of the universe, and scientists have evidence to say this, then the universe must be growing into something else. so it mean just that one part of the OP was more interesting to me than the whole article (no offense).

Edit: i just realised it was you highwaystar, the beard covered Data's face, lol. you already know what programe i'm talking about, i'm not supprised your the OP.

Was that the recent Horizon one? I remember that was pretty good. I might watch it again on series catch up.



highwaystar101 said:
A203D said:
Snesboy said:
A203D said:

Incredible, i know it was only briefly mentioned but i find it fascinating that scientists can detect glaxies on the edge of the know universe. but of course Andromeda in itself is a fascinating discovery.


Makes you wonder what else is out there.


Well i actully saw a programe recently about what may have existed before the big bang, and based on what other scientisits think. and stephen hawkings multiverse theory; i think (with a degree of doubt of course) there are other universes and ours is possibily one of thousands, maybe millions.

my point is that if there is indeed an 'edge' of the universe, and scientists have evidence to say this, then the universe must be growing into something else. so it mean just that one part of the OP was more interesting to me than the whole article (no offense).

Edit: i just realised it was you highwaystar, the beard covered Data's face, lol. you already know what programe i'm talking about, i'm not supprised your the OP.

Was that the recent Horizon one? I remember that was pretty good. I might watch it again on series catch up.

Yeah, i remember we mentioned it on the documentaries thread. but the end part especially was the best; where Mersini-Houghton had some theory (cant remember). but it links to how the galaxies are being redshifted away, but even then theres a disparity in their movement.

there seems to be an invisible force of gravity moving them in other directions. and it seems that this could be the gravitational pull of other universes. so thats why when you mentioned scientists being able to detect galaxies on the edge of the universe, then thats what i imediately thought of!

oh by the way are you a big Star Trek fan???



so cool to learn about this stuff