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Dallinor on 25 November 2010

Fantastic PSP sales, nearly 100k.

I thought Kinect might boost the 360 a bit more. After the overwhelming success of it in NA, I figured there was a chance, even if slim, of it moving a decent amount of hardware in Japan.



 

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bmmb1 on 25 November 2010
M.U.G.E.N said:

wikipedia says sonic colors release was Nov 18 2010....not sure if it was postponed tho, but if not it bombed hard

I looked now in Amazon Japan and it seems to agree with that date, so it certainly looks like it bombed hard, only thing I don't know is how did previous Sonic games do in Japan. Maybe this was an expected bomb, and maybe it wasn't, I have no idea.

I am saying this because somewhere someone mentioned Winning Eleven Wii (which came out this week together with the PSP and PS2 versions), yet that game's numbers were actually expected, given the following (taken from GAF):

15/03/01 [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 5 (Konami) - 171.364 / 237.975
25/04/02 [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 6: International (Konami) - / 958.112
07/08/03 [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 7 (Konami) - 642.400 / 1.010.800
05/08/04 [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 8 (Konami) - 696.521 / 1.049.739
04/08/05 [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 9 (Konami) - 573.847 / 799.033
27/04/06 [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 10 (Konami) - 460.549 / 1.029.552
22/11/07 [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2008 (Konami) - 293.926 / 606.660
29/01/09 [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2009 (Konami) - 108.189 / 256.815
10/12/09 [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2010 (Konami) - 34.142 / 74.763
18/11/10 [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2011 (Konami) - 14.450 / 14.450

15/09/05 [PSP] World Soccer Winning Eleven 9 (Konami) - 106.882 / 246.896
14/12/06 [PSP] World Soccer Winning Eleven 10 (Konami) - 34.808 / 140.986
24/01/08 [PSP] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2008 (Konami) - 76.669 / 203.180
29/01/09 [PSP] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2009 (Konami) - 109.492 / 267.327
10/12/09 [PSP] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2010 (Konami) - 40.502 / 135.555
18/11/10 [PSP] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2011 (Konami) - 35.500 / 35.500

21/02/08 [WII] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2008 (Konami) - 36.067 / 112.763
14/05/09 [WII] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2009 (Konami) - 14.232 / 45.028
10/12/09 [WII] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2010 (Konami) - 9.386 / 33.683
18/11/10 [WII] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2011 (Konami) - 8.105 / 8.105



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trestres on 25 November 2010
bmmb1 said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
bmmb1 said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
CGI-Quality said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
Sh1nn said:

 

 Media Create TOP 30 :

http://www.gpara.com/ranking/mediacreatebn/ranking_20101125.php

 

GT5 Launch in Japan :

 


 


Nice, I also like those boxes in the background with logitech logos...should be great sales for all

BIG sales in Japan next week for PlayStation 3.


If it beats Wii next week as well, then PS3 would have outsold Wii in Jp for 2010 (number of weeks above the other)...who would have expected that at the start of the year right?

Maybe many haven't expected that at the start of the year (though personally I was not surprised, but that's just me), but in hindsight this is not surprising at all, I believe due to 2 primary factors:

1. Relative lack of significant games for the WIi in Japan (look at the list of major Wii games released in Japan vs. the list of PS3  games)

2. Torne. I have come to believe Torne is the factor that kept PS3 afloat above the 20k mark this year all those times when there were no major game releases, and "logically" (including looking at historical data) PS3 sales should have fallen.

What to me is surprising is that the WIi has sold as much as it did in Japan this year given the games situation... While the PS3 may win this year in total sales, the gap right now is really not much.

Aren't you just being a bit one sided with those arguments

1. Wii had many major releases this year, I don't know why people even say it didn't have games. Lack of 3rd party is a different issue, which is a problem caused by Ninty themselves maybe? And also the lack of sales in some games doesn't mean it didn't have games, it had plenty of games and they still have some big titles to be released (really don't wanna get into list wars here but wii had wii series, Mario, metroid, Kirby and soon Donkey Kong as well on their system this year...hey btw can at least you tell me if Sonic Colors released in Jp to be included in these numbers or not? I was so sure it was for these numbers)

2. Wii is still way cheaper in comparison, it's a major advantage it has over the competition.

3. Wii has also brought in many add-ons (way more than the competition even) to the table

Eitherway this is a great achievement for PS3 in Jp, you just have to agree with that....it will only get better as price goes down

Regarding games, maybe I should have said lack of major 3rd party support in Japan, not lack of major games, but the end result is the same, since 1st party by their very nature are always few with large gaps in between and cannot by themselves support a system. It really doesn't matter who if anyone is to blame for the 3rd party situation in Japan, the fact is that was the situation in a glaring way this year, and it obviously had its effect. Regardless of the Wii situation, PS3 sold considerably better than last year, and that was imo on the strength of the same 2 factors - steady stream of games Japanese people has an interest in that came out in Japan in 2010, and Torne.

 


I think the situation will get worse if we take a look at the amount of 3rd party games each console is getting in Japan starting from next year and onwards.

PS3:

  • Ninokuni: Queen of the White Ash (Level 5)
  • Final Fantasy Versus XIII (Square-Enix)
  • Metal Gear Solid: Rising (Konami)
  • Yakuza: Of the End (Sega)
  • Shin Sangoku Musou 6 (Tecmo-Koei)
  • New Tales of (Namco-Bandai)
  • Winning Eleven 201X (Konami)
  • Devil may Cry (Capcom)
  • Gundam Musou 3 (Tecmo-Koei)
  • Samurai Warriors 3Z (Tecmo-Koei)
  • Ni-Oh (Tecmo-Koei)
  • Project Dark (From Software)
  • Street Fighter vs. Tekken (Capcom/Namco-Bandai)
  • Tekken vs. Street Fighter (Namco-Bandai/Capcom)
  • Dinasty Warriors Troy (Tecmo-Koei)
  • Final Fantasy XIV (Square-Enix)
  • Asura's Wrath (Capcom)
  • Ace Combat: Assault Horizon (Namco-Bandai)
  • Tekken 7 (Namco-Bandai)
  • Way of the Samurai 4 (Spike)
  • Powerful Pro Baseball 201X (Konami)
  • Pro Baseball Spirits 201X (Konami)
  • Shadows of the DAMNED (Grasshopper/EA)
  • Armored Core 5 (From Software)
  • Marvel vs. Capcom 3: Fate of the Two Worlds (Capcom)
  • Disgaea 4 (Nippon Ichi Software)
  • Catherine (Atlus)
  • Rune Factory Oceans (Marvelous)
  • Disaster Report 4 (Irem)
  • King of Fighters XIII (SNK Playmore)
  • Silent Hill (Konami)
  • Sega Dreamcast Collection (Sega)
  • Earth Defense Force: Insect Armageddon (D3 Publisher)
  • Devil's Third (Valhalla Game Studios/THQ)
  • Suzumiya Haruhi no Tsuisou (Namco-Bandai)
  • Mind Jack (Square-Enix)
  • Wizardry: City of the Captive Spirits (Acquire)
  • Virtua Tennis 4 (Sega)
  • Arcana Heart 3 (Arc System Works)
  • El Shaddai: Ascension of the Metatron (Ignition Entertainment Japan)
  • Majin and the Forsaken Kingdom (Namco-Bandai)
  • Deus Ex: Human Revolution (Square-Enix)
  • Dungeon Siege 3 (Square-Enix)
  • Arkaham City (Square-Enix)
  • NeverDead (Konami)
  • Knights Contract (Namco-Bandai)
  • Fortune Arterial (Kadokawa Shoten)
  • L@ve Once: Mermaid's Tears (Maid Meets Cat)
  • Clannad (Prototype)
  • Tsuri Tore (Recom)
  • Winning Post 201X (Tecmo-Koei)
  • Mamorukun wa Nowareteshimatta: Meikai Katsugeki Wide Version (Cyber Front)
  • Pachipara Sea Story SLOT (Irem)

 

Wii:

  • Dragon Quest X (Square-Enix)
  • Inazuma Eleven Strikers (Level 5)
  • Samurai Warriors 3 Xtreme Legends (Tecmo-Koei)
  • Earth Seeker (Kadokawa Shoten)
  • Rune Factory Oceans (Marvelous)
  • Winning Eleven 201X (Konami)
  • Write! Move! Catch! Teacher Wii
  • Billy's Boot Camp: Enjoy Diet on Wii! (Rocket Company)
  • The Monkey King (Starfish)

 

 

And I'm not even counting Western games, which would favor the PS3's list.



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stopstopp on 25 November 2010

Wow, I think dragon quest really held up the wii this year.



Zlejedi on 25 November 2010

Either Dragon Quest or Versus XIII will not make it to 2011 according to SE policy of one major title per year.

With total lack of information about DQ X I think it's the title that will be 2012 game (if it's still Wii release at all)



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saicho on 25 November 2010
bmmb1 said:
M.U.G.E.N said:

wikipedia says sonic colors release was Nov 18 2010....not sure if it was postponed tho, but if not it bombed hard

I looked now in Amazon Japan and it seems to agree with that date, so it certainly looks like it bombed hard, only thing I don't know is how did previous Sonic games do in Japan. Maybe this was an expected bomb, and maybe it wasn't, I have no idea.

I am saying this because somewhere someone mentioned Winning Eleven Wii (which came out this week together with the PSP and PS2 versions), yet that game's numbers were actually expected, given the following (taken from GAF):

15/03/01 [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 5 (Konami) - 171.364 / 237.975
25/04/02 [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 6: International (Konami) - / 958.112
07/08/03 [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 7 (Konami) - 642.400 / 1.010.800
05/08/04 [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 8 (Konami) - 696.521 / 1.049.739
04/08/05 [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 9 (Konami) - 573.847 / 799.033
27/04/06 [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 10 (Konami) - 460.549 / 1.029.552
22/11/07 [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2008 (Konami) - 293.926 / 606.660
29/01/09 [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2009 (Konami) - 108.189 / 256.815
10/12/09 [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2010 (Konami) - 34.142 / 74.763
18/11/10 [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2011 (Konami) - 14.450 / 14.450

15/09/05 [PSP] World Soccer Winning Eleven 9 (Konami) - 106.882 / 246.896
14/12/06 [PSP] World Soccer Winning Eleven 10 (Konami) - 34.808 / 140.986
24/01/08 [PSP] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2008 (Konami) - 76.669 / 203.180
29/01/09 [PSP] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2009 (Konami) - 109.492 / 267.327
10/12/09 [PSP] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2010 (Konami) - 40.502 / 135.555
18/11/10 [PSP] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2011 (Konami) - 35.500 / 35.500

21/02/08 [WII] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2008 (Konami) - 36.067 / 112.763
14/05/09 [WII] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2009 (Konami) - 14.232 / 45.028
10/12/09 [WII] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2010 (Konami) - 9.386 / 33.683
18/11/10 [WII] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2011 (Konami) - 8.105 / 8.105

taken from vgc. Sonic game on Wii first week

03/15/07 Sonic and The Secret Ring    10523
01/17/08 Sonic Riders: Zero Gravity    4197
12/18/08 Sonic Unleashed                      5810
03/12/09 Sonic and the Black Knight    4126

People also love to call things a bomba with no base since Sonic Color should suddenly sell 100K for no apparent reason.

@M.U.G.E.N.

I wrote my last post cause I don't like complainers or people who make false assumptions. There are a lot of them here lately.



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saicho on 25 November 2010
Zlejedi said:

Either Dragon Quest or Versus XIII will not make it to 2011 according to SE policy of one major title per year.

With total lack of information about DQ X I think it's the title that will be 2012 game (if it's still Wii release at all)


this rule was broken last year when DQ9 and FFXIII was released in the same fiscal year last year.



MikeB predicts that the PS3 will sell about 140 million units by the end of 2016 and triple the amount of 360s in the long run.

Yakuzaice on 25 November 2010
D-Joe said:

http://www.gpara.com/ranking/mediacreatebn/ranking_20101125.php

Dance Master rank 24,around 6000~8000 maybe?meh

It's kind of hard to say.  The top 20 was really high this week, but it was below Mario Kart which did 4.5k last week.  I'd expect 4-5k is more likely.



Bruno Muñoz on 25 November 2010

12. / 00. [PSP] Criminal Girls (Nippon Ichi Software) - 17.855 / NEW

Is NIS still in business? this is a true miracle.



D-Joe on 25 November 2010
Yakuzaice said:
D-Joe said:

http://www.gpara.com/ranking/mediacreatebn/ranking_20101125.php

Dance Master rank 24,around 6000~8000 maybe?meh

It's kind of hard to say.  The top 20 was really high this week, but it was below Mario Kart which did 4.5k last week.  I'd expect 4-5k is more likely.

well,looks like more

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http://kamome.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/ghard/1290701334/128

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