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MaxwellGT2000 on 18 November 2010
themanwithnoname said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:


You can't go around posting pictures and gifs of real life cars and try to pass it off as GT5! :O

Anyway I think he's trying to say bland in the sense that Forza and GT go for looking like real life, real life is normal and that is the definition of bland, so maybe he's trying to say he wants more style and to go beyond normal.  But even if he is meaning that its a poor choice of words, though I don't think they have to do much to look better than Forza since the original Shift looks better than Forza 3 did.


Thanks for that, I needed a good laugh tonight.

Glad you got a chuckle, shame I enjoy blur effects to give a sense of speed, depth of field, crash effect that give you a good sense of being in a crash, and finally actually having people and things around the track so isn't boring to look at.

 

Believe me it took me a while to find that Forza video to give it a fair shake lol

Either way I'm not getting into this further than that, Shift isn't trying to simulate real life, and I find real life boring, so of course I'd find something that is trying to be a game rather than real life would be entertaining to look at.



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masschamber on 18 November 2010
Snesboy said:
gurglesletch said:
Snesboy said:

So people actually can tell the difference between 30FPS and 60FPS? You people must have super powers.


Or not.


Yeah, human eye stops noticing shit like frames per second once it goes over 24FPS.

no it doesn't the human eye requies less than 1/200 th of a second to preceive something, since the idea doesn't see in frames per second, but the difference between 60 and 30 is very easy to notice,

http://amo.net/NT/02-21-01FPS.html

anyway I guess if he means he is going for unrealistic spectical like excite truck, motorstorm or outrun or loads of superflorious details like people buying hotdogs in the background he'd have something, but for realism I don't think things can look that much nicer than GT5

also you can compare  gameplay between racing sims and arcade racers, they're both about driving cars and some people don't look for realistic driving, it'd be like saying the NRA shooting sims are better than halo because the NRA shooting sims are ultra realistic, personally I play loads of outrun online, but won't buy gt5 because I don't like racing sims



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SnesTea on 18 November 2010
masschamber said:
Snesboy said:
gurglesletch said:
Snesboy said:

So people actually can tell the difference between 30FPS and 60FPS? You people must have super powers.


Or not.


Yeah, human eye stops noticing shit like frames per second once it goes over 24FPS.

no it doesn't the human eye requies less than 1/200 th of a second to preceive something, since the idea doesn't see in frames per second, but the difference between 60 and 30 is very easy to notice,

http://amo.net/NT/02-21-01FPS.html

anyway I guess if he means he is going for unrealistic spectical like excite truck, motorstorm or outrun or loads of superflorious details like people buying hotdogs in the background he'd have something, but for realism I don't think things can look that much nicer than GT5

also you can compare  gameplay between racing sims and arcade racers, they're both about driving cars and some people don't look for realistic driving, it'd be like saying the NRA shooting sims are better than halo because the NRA shooting sims are ultra realistic, personally I play loads of outrun online, but won't buy gt5 because I don't like racing sims

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Smidlee on 18 November 2010
Snesboy said:

So people actually can tell the difference between 30FPS and 60FPS? You people must have super powers.

You can easy tell the difference in racing games with triple screen and/or turning  sharp corners.

 P.S just saw the article above explain how our eyes/brain sees. Basicly the difference between 30 fps from 60fps can be seen when you have objects flying across the screen rapidly.



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Severance on 18 November 2010
tuscaniman said:
4k1x3r said:
Lyrikalstylez said:

The Graphics sure look incedible for GT5 but I just find the gameply boring and repetitive

I prefer the gameplay of Midnight Club, Need for Speed and Burnout >>> GT5 & FORZA

 

... comments like thse make me lose hope in humanity.


Sorry but GT is not the end all be all. I'm glad you and many others think it is but I don't find driving around in a PT Cruiser for 4 hours trying to earn enough money to buy a Mustang, rinse and repeat for weeks till I can afford a fun car to drive an enjoyable experience. Thats not even mentioning wasting time earning licenses. I can say the same for Forza except minus the license part. Need for Speed and others like it are just a more gripping action experience. Unless someone is obsessed with cars then GT5 and Forza 3 just don't appeal as much.

Don't you play Racers because you love cars?

unless its something like Wipeout or F-Zero



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Smidlee on 18 November 2010
MaxwellGT2000 said:
themanwithnoname said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
 


You can't go around posting pictures and gifs of real life cars and try to pass it off as GT5! :O

Anyway I think he's trying to say bland in the sense that Forza and GT go for looking like real life, real life is normal and that is the definition of bland, so maybe he's trying to say he wants more style and to go beyond normal.  But even if he is meaning that its a poor choice of words, though I don't think they have to do much to look better than Forza since the original Shift looks better than Forza 3 did.


Thanks for that, I needed a good laugh tonight.

Glad you got a chuckle, shame I enjoy blur effects to give a sense of speed, depth of field, crash effect that give you a good sense of being in a crash, and finally actually having people and things around the track so isn't boring to look at.

 

Believe me it took me a while to find that Forza video to give it a fair shake lol

Either way I'm not getting into this further than that, Shift isn't trying to simulate real life, and I find real life boring, so of course I'd find something that is trying to be a game rather than real life would be entertaining to look at

Both Shift and Forza 3 has parts that tries to copy real life and other part are just "gamey".  I'm surely no one here would think "instant replay" in forza 3 is like real life. Shift uses real cars with cockpit view and even motion blur itself is trying to copy real life.



tuscaniman on 22 November 2010
--OkeyDokey-- said:
tuscaniman said:
4k1x3r said:
Lyrikalstylez said:

The Graphics sure look incedible for GT5 but I just find the gameply boring and repetitive

I prefer the gameplay of Midnight Club, Need for Speed and Burnout >>> GT5 & FORZA

 

... comments like thse make me lose hope in humanity.


Sorry but GT is not the end all be all. I'm glad you and many others think it is but I don't find driving around in a PT Cruiser for 4 hours trying to earn enough money to buy a Mustang, rinse and repeat for weeks till I can afford a fun car to drive an enjoyable experience. Thats not even mentioning wasting time earning licenses. I can say the same for Forza except minus the license part. Need for Speed and others like it are just a more gripping action experience. Unless someone is obsessed with cars then GT5 and Forza 3 just don't appeal as much.

LOL, you don't have to grind for weeks to get a fun car in GT. Just go to the used dealer and buy an old Integra or MX-5 with the money you start out with!

But yeah, if you're so unknowledgeable about cars that you'd buy a PT Cruiser and save up for a Mustang instead of something useful then it clearly isn't the game for you.


Yes because an integra or MX-5 are fast. I'm unknowledgeable about cars? A mustang would rape an integra or MX-5 anyday. 15 second 1/4 miles are not impressive. I'm talking stock vs stock. Mod vs mod stang would still win.



--OkeyDokey-- on 22 November 2010
tuscaniman said:
--OkeyDokey-- said:
tuscaniman said:
4k1x3r said:
Lyrikalstylez said:

The Graphics sure look incedible for GT5 but I just find the gameply boring and repetitive

I prefer the gameplay of Midnight Club, Need for Speed and Burnout >>> GT5 & FORZA

 

... comments like thse make me lose hope in humanity.


Sorry but GT is not the end all be all. I'm glad you and many others think it is but I don't find driving around in a PT Cruiser for 4 hours trying to earn enough money to buy a Mustang, rinse and repeat for weeks till I can afford a fun car to drive an enjoyable experience. Thats not even mentioning wasting time earning licenses. I can say the same for Forza except minus the license part. Need for Speed and others like it are just a more gripping action experience. Unless someone is obsessed with cars then GT5 and Forza 3 just don't appeal as much.

LOL, you don't have to grind for weeks to get a fun car in GT. Just go to the used dealer and buy an old Integra or MX-5 with the money you start out with!

But yeah, if you're so unknowledgeable about cars that you'd buy a PT Cruiser and save up for a Mustang instead of something useful then it clearly isn't the game for you.


Yes because an integra or MX-5 are fast. I'm unknowledgeable about cars? A mustang would rape an integra or MX-5 anyday. 15 second 1/4 miles are not impressive. I'm talking stock vs stock. Mod vs mod stang would still win.

I suggest Reading Comprehension 101. Never said those cars were particularly fast. Just making a point that you can be driving a fun car in GT right off the bat instead of spending "4 hours in a PT Cruiser". Mustangs might be nice in NFS but this is a sim racer and you need to be able to turn corners :D



BMaker11 on 22 November 2010
Snesboy said:
gurglesletch said:
Snesboy said:

So people actually can tell the difference between 30FPS and 60FPS? You people must have super powers.


Or not.


Yeah, human eye stops noticing shit like frames per second once it goes over 24FPS.

Try watching football at 60FPS and 120FPS. Big difference