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Mr Puggsly on 02 January 2011
Metallicube said:

I highly doubt it. In order to sell 20 million, people REALLY need a reason to keep buying Kinects, it needs the constant flow of good games to back it up and keep it propped up. And there is still nothing from the Kinect games out now or the ones that have been announced that tells me Kinect will have any kind of staying power.

I think the Wii proved casual games with motion technology have staying power.

Kinect offers a very unique experience not found on other consoles. It also breathes new life into some genres that are very popular on the Wii.

I own a Kinect and its blast. It definitely has staying power.



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Mr Puggsly on 02 January 2011
dark_gh0st_b0y said:
Edouble24 said:

bundled games selling a lot isn't really all that special. 

that

Its not really about Kinect Adventures. Its just being used to track the sales of the Kinect.

20 million Kinect units sold would be extremely impressive.



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Metallicube on 02 January 2011
Mr Puggsly said:
Metallicube said:

I highly doubt it. In order to sell 20 million, people REALLY need a reason to keep buying Kinects, it needs the constant flow of good games to back it up and keep it propped up. And there is still nothing from the Kinect games out now or the ones that have been announced that tells me Kinect will have any kind of staying power.

I think the Wii proved casual games with motion technology have staying power.

Kinect offers a very unique experience not found on other consoles. It also breathes new life into some genres that are very popular on the Wii.

I own a Kinect and its blast. It definitely has staying power.

The difference is the Wii has a plentiful library of quality games, and the support of strong Nintendo franchises. Aside from Dance Central, maybe Kinect Adventures and Kinect Sports, I don't see that quality on Kinect's lineup, either now or in the future. Simply being "casual" doesn't get it a free pass to success. I think the various failed third party efforts at "casual" software on Wii has proven that.

If a hardware console/peripheral/whatever doesn't have the games to back it up, it will falter, because the purpose of the hardware is to play the software. Doesn't matter how cool controller-less gaming might be. And so far all I really see on Kinect is a few good games that Wii has already done, and a whole lot of duds that resemble the bottom of the barrel third party shovelware on the Wii.



bannedagain on 02 January 2011
Nirvana_Nut85 said:

I think 10, maybe 12 would be a realistic figure if it catches on, but 20 million is definately a pipe dream


We will see, but i think given it's with kinect and should stay that way for a while it should hit 20 million with ease.

 



bannedagain on 02 January 2011
Metallicube said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Metallicube said:

I highly doubt it. In order to sell 20 million, people REALLY need a reason to keep buying Kinects, it needs the constant flow of good games to back it up and keep it propped up. And there is still nothing from the Kinect games out now or the ones that have been announced that tells me Kinect will have any kind of staying power.

I think the Wii proved casual games with motion technology have staying power.

Kinect offers a very unique experience not found on other consoles. It also breathes new life into some genres that are very popular on the Wii.

I own a Kinect and its blast. It definitely has staying power.

The difference is the Wii has a plentiful library of quality games, and the support of strong Nintendo franchises. Aside from Dance Central, maybe Kinect Adventures and Kinect Sports, I don't see that quality on Kinect's lineup, either now or in the future. Simply being "casual" doesn't get it a free pass to success. I think the various failed third party efforts at "casual" software on Wii has proven that.

If a hardware console/peripheral/whatever doesn't have the games to back it up, it will falter, because the purpose of the hardware is to play the software. Doesn't matter how cool controller-less gaming might be. And so far all I really see on Kinect is a few good games that Wii has already done, and a whole lot of duds that resemble the bottom of the barrel third party shovelware on the Wii.

Games are in the pipe line. After the sales of kinect this year, software companies are going to be punching out games. What about the TGS game, you forget about those.

When a new system, whatever, launches did they ever have more then a couple good games and the rest mediocre. Thats how it goes.  So kinect adventure is going to hit 20 million with ease. 

Seems funny you bring up bad software when in NA there are 7 kinect titles in the top 50 chart. Having 3 million sellers already and more on the way. I bet zumba and your shape evolved get there as well. Seems Joy ride is getting some traction too, even though it's a crappy game. I agree with you there but maybe kids love it.  Kinectimals will hit a million as well.

So duds usually don't sell that well. But we are used to this type of talk from u. Seems you hate anything to do with kinect and it's success and will downplay it at any chance. ( just my opinion, I could be wrong) most likely not.



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bannedagain on 02 January 2011
Mr Puggsly said:
dark_gh0st_b0y said:
Edouble24 said:

bundled games selling a lot isn't really all that special. 

that

Its not really about Kinect Adventures. Its just being used to track the sales of the Kinect.

20 million Kinect units sold would be extremely impressive.

20 million I think should be hit with ease. we might want to talk about 25-30 million. it hit 6 million this week and I think it will continue sales. every parent I know wants one. this device has caught attention of health nutz and parents, epecially moms and that is where you get sales. you know mom always wins, usually. There good at spending money.



Mr Puggsly on 02 January 2011
Metallicube said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Metallicube said:

I highly doubt it. In order to sell 20 million, people REALLY need a reason to keep buying Kinects, it needs the constant flow of good games to back it up and keep it propped up. And there is still nothing from the Kinect games out now or the ones that have been announced that tells me Kinect will have any kind of staying power.

I think the Wii proved casual games with motion technology have staying power.

Kinect offers a very unique experience not found on other consoles. It also breathes new life into some genres that are very popular on the Wii.

I own a Kinect and its blast. It definitely has staying power.

The difference is the Wii has a plentiful library of quality games, and the support of strong Nintendo franchises. Aside from Dance Central, maybe Kinect Adventures and Kinect Sports, I don't see that quality on Kinect's lineup, either now or in the future. Simply being "casual" doesn't get it a free pass to success. I think the various failed third party efforts at "casual" software on Wii has proven that.

If a hardware console/peripheral/whatever doesn't have the games to back it up, it will falter, because the purpose of the hardware is to play the software. Doesn't matter how cool controller-less gaming might be. And so far all I really see on Kinect is a few good games that Wii has already done, and a whole lot of duds that resemble the bottom of the barrel third party shovelware on the Wii.

360 has a plentiful library of quality games as well. Kinect isn't a console, its a perhiperal. The 360 already offers one of the best core experiences on the market. Now it also offers some of the best motion gaming on the market.

There's a big demand for genres like party, exercise, and dancing games. The Kinect delivers them in a way that's arguably more entertaining than ever.

My sister and her family for example have had a Wii for years. They recently bought the Kinect bundle and have shown more interest in those motion games than Wii games. They also dabble in core games like Modern Warfare, Gears, Tomb Raider, etc.

The 360 is now the total package! Unless you want a decent platformer... stick with the Wii for that.



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toastboy44562 on 02 January 2011
Mr Puggsly said:
Metallicube said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Metallicube said:

I highly doubt it. In order to sell 20 million, people REALLY need a reason to keep buying Kinects, it needs the constant flow of good games to back it up and keep it propped up. And there is still nothing from the Kinect games out now or the ones that have been announced that tells me Kinect will have any kind of staying power.

I think the Wii proved casual games with motion technology have staying power.

Kinect offers a very unique experience not found on other consoles. It also breathes new life into some genres that are very popular on the Wii.

I own a Kinect and its blast. It definitely has staying power.

The difference is the Wii has a plentiful library of quality games, and the support of strong Nintendo franchises. Aside from Dance Central, maybe Kinect Adventures and Kinect Sports, I don't see that quality on Kinect's lineup, either now or in the future. Simply being "casual" doesn't get it a free pass to success. I think the various failed third party efforts at "casual" software on Wii has proven that.

If a hardware console/peripheral/whatever doesn't have the games to back it up, it will falter, because the purpose of the hardware is to play the software. Doesn't matter how cool controller-less gaming might be. And so far all I really see on Kinect is a few good games that Wii has already done, and a whole lot of duds that resemble the bottom of the barrel third party shovelware on the Wii.

360 has a plentiful library of quality games as well. Kinect isn't a console, its a perhiperal. The 360 already offers one of the best core experiences on the market. Now it also offers some of the best motion gaming on the market.

There's a big demand for genres like party, exercise, and dancing games. The Kinect delivers them in a way that's arguably more entertaining than ever.

My sister and her family for example have had a Wii for years. They recently bought the Kinect bundle and have shown more interest in those motion games than Wii games. They also dabble in core games like Modern Warfare, Gears, Tomb Raider, etc.

The 360 is now the total package! Unless you want a decent platformer... stick with the Wii for that.

pretty much this



Seece on 06 January 2011

Thread makes me chuckle, amazing how people's hate and fear can lead to such dud predictions (read: hope)

8 million plus (shipped, sold to consumer w/e) in 8 weeks is incredibl. That pretty much proves the demand is there.

It'll do 8 million again next holiday season, which new more compelling SW, no shortages, more time and a possible price cut (I defo think UK will get one as £130 is rather high)

So if it can do 4 million Jan - Oct, it'll do 20 million by end of this year.



 

homer on 06 January 2011
Seece said:

Thread makes me chuckle, amazing how people's hate and fear can lead to such dud predictions (read: hope)

8 million plus (shipped, sold to consumer w/e) in 8 weeks is incredibl. That pretty much proves the demand is there.

It'll do 8 million again next holiday season, which new more compelling SW, no shortages, more time and a possible price cut (I defo think UK will get one as £130 is rather high)

So if it can do 4 million Jan - Oct, it'll do 20 million by end of this year.


I still do not count Kinect Adventures as 20 million sold, seeing as you cannot buy a kinect without it. Kinect hitting 20 million is likely though.



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