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Khuutra said:
nen-suer said:
Khuutra said:
nen-suer said:

I think its about time you role claim khuutra.

Now why would I do anything like that? At the moment I'm relatively free of suspicion and am in a perfectly comfortable position to go to the end of the game in victory, even if it has to be done by force. I gain nothing by role claiming.

I still suspect you.

All right. Humor me: nobody else is active at the moment. Why do you suspect me?

Your attitude on day 1, for suggesting we lynch Kamal and for "hanging" with MG last night.



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nen-suer said:
Khuutra said:
nen-suer said:

I still suspect you.

All right. Humor me: nobody else is active at the moment. Why do you suspect me?

Your attitude on day 1, for suggesting we lynch Kamal and for "hanging" with MG last night.

...Why is suggesting we hang Kamal suspicious?



nen-suer said:

Can you remind me what were your concerns against SAK.

This goes back to the names debacle (I know, I know).  SAK jumped on hephaestos and Linkmaxz for claiming to be generic youma, then he flipped and claimed that he was a generic youma.  His explanation for that discrepancy strikes me as very poor: in essence, "I wasn't really paying attention."  I think he exposed his position, and then tried to cover himself.



I will vouch for Khuutra's statement. I can say with absolute certainty that MetalGear94 is not scum.

By extension, since MG seems to be going along with Khuutra, Khuutra is not scum.

I am clearly not scum.

Having assumed Khuutra's innocence and apparent power, I will say that Homer_Simpson is not scum.

Leaving these five:

nen-suer

dtewi

noname2200

SuperAdrianK

c03n3nj0.

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We have anything from a 20% to a 40% chance of lynching a mafioso today. But I think we can do better than that. We can do better than random chance. And it's always a fallback.

If anyone has any suspicions on these five, no matter how inane or stupid, please voice them.

If anyone has any suspicions on the first four, then I have no trust for them, but voice them anyway.



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nen-suer said:
Khuutra said:
nen-suer said:
Khuutra said:
nen-suer said:

I think its about time you role claim khuutra.

Now why would I do anything like that? At the moment I'm relatively free of suspicion and am in a perfectly comfortable position to go to the end of the game in victory, even if it has to be done by force. I gain nothing by role claiming.

I still suspect you.

All right. Humor me: nobody else is active at the moment. Why do you suspect me?

Your attitude on day 1, for suggesting we lynch Kamal and for "hanging" with MG last night.

1) Khuutra is always like that.

2) Why would he propose lynching a fellow mafioso? That makes no sense whatsoever.

3) Explainable in many ways.

Khuutra being innocent is the second most certain I am in the innocence of any living player not including myself.



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Might as well update the votals.

Today's Votals:
[3,L-2] noname2200: dtewi, (Khuutra), Homer_Simpson, SuperAdrianK
[1, L-4] SuperAdrianK: noname2200
[0] MetalGear94: (Homer_Simpson), (c03n3nj0)
[0] Homer_Simpson: (dtewi)



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Kantor, if you are scum trying to ingratiate yourself to the town, you are doing a good job.

Mind if I lay out some numbers?



Khuutra said:

Kantor, if you are scum trying to ingratiate yourself to the town, you are doing a good job.

Mind if I lay out some numbers?

I could say the same about you.

Please go ahead.



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It works like this.

We have four generally confirmed townies. It's not absolute, but we can pretend. I can say with absolute certainty that Homer and Metal_Gear are town. For the sake of this conversation let's pretend you and I are.

Five unconfirmed townies sit on the other side.

We have a vigilante. We can kill two unconfirmeds per day, while the Mafia can only kill one confirmed per day.

In addition to this, the cop could - in theory - eliminate one more suspect per day, either confirming them as Mafia or Town. Homer's power is less useful in this situation, so I'm not going to put it down as an elimination sort of thing.

We are on Day 3. By Day 4, there will be 2 unconfirmed townies left and 3 (more or less) confirmed. It doesn't matter WHAT the Mafia does at that point, they've lost. They can kill the vig or the cop but not both, and at that point it won't matter. Game over, Mafia. We win by the end of Day 4 or the dawn of Day 5, no questions asked.

We are, thanks to rampant modkilling, in the endgame. It could be close, but only if we play this very, very stupidly.

I'm thinking that all townies with power roles should reveal themselves, BUT NOT UNTIL I SAY SO. Is anyone against this?



noname2200 said:
nen-suer said:

Can you remind me what were your concerns against SAK.

This goes back to the names debacle (I know, I know).  SAK jumped on hephaestos and Linkmaxz for claiming to be generic youma, then he flipped and claimed that he was a generic youma.  His explanation for that discrepancy strikes me as very poor: in essence, "I wasn't really paying attention."  I think he exposed his position, and then tried to cover himself.

At first i thought Youma was my name too, i just think SAK was just slow in understanding the whole thing

that what i think anyway.



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