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S.T.A.G.E. said:
chocoloco said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
chocoloco said:
hatmoza said:

I'm so happy I decided not to get this on  the 360.

Good things come to those who wait.

The early birdf always gegts the worm. :P

Oh wait, I got screwed.


I played the 360 version and dont feel screwed at all. PS3 owners have missed out on quite a bit of Mass Effect series. I feel the 6 hours plus extra content is the least they could do to fill in the gaps for them. 360 gamers can go on business as usual. If a 360 And I afree the owner is a true Mass Effect fan they really wont miss out on very much, being that there are novels, comics, DLC and a 40 hr exclusive game  that they have right now which PS3 fans have to either wait for or wont even be able to touch.

I was being a little dramatic, but I mostly remain bitter that I was told it was an exclusive and it was not. In the end,  I am happier to play it early and on the 360 because I could transfer my data from ME to 2 and I know I understand ME world a million times more due to playing the first one. I agree the game was long enough as it was, but I am tired of microsofts lies.


It's not Microsofts fault though bro. It's EA's. Microsoft are to blame only for being dumbasses and not purchasing Bioware. EA bought them and everyone know EA love Sony. From the second of that purchase we all predicted the outcome. Secondly....don't hold to hope for anymore 3rd party PC/360 exclusives from Valve either. Left4Dead is most likely going to go to the PS3 as well Thanks to Valves newfound love for the PS3.

In the end, I blame Microsoft because they are not providing me with many unique experiences that will never go to the PS3. I am not about preventing one console owners from enjoying a great game I just need reasons to justify owning both and Microsoft is not doing as good of a job for me because I want original games, the new ESPN thing is great, but I want non-Kinect games. I also expect L4D to go to PS3 and hope it does, but it will only make me think of the xbox as the HALO and GEARS box thats not very much.



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chocoloco said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
chocoloco said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
chocoloco said:
hatmoza said:

In the end, I blame Microsoft because they are not providing me with many unique experiences that will never go to the PS3. I am not about preventing one console owners from enjoying a great game I just need reasons to justify owning both and Microsoft is not doing as good of a job for me because I want original games, the new ESPN thing is great, but I want non-Kinect games. I also expect L4D to go to PS3 and hope it does, but it will only make me think of the xbox as the HALO and GEARS box thats not very much.

I guess people who have 360s need to understand the different level in 1st party support vs Nintendo/Sony.  Microsoft has never, so far as I am aware, invested in the same level of 1st party support as the others.  MS will commission timed exclusives, timed DLC, etc. and will enter into agreements for titles that are only for 360.

As a result, unless the developer choses to give MS IP or publishing rights the console will always be in a position where a lot of titles its owners think are exclusive can go multi-platform.  This might be a switch such as Valve's as you mention, or it could be a change of direction or ownership - such as EA buying Bioware.

Not saying Nintendo/Sony are better consoles or anything - just that if this kind of thing matters to you its important to understand the market situation and each company's approach.  So far this gen MS has taken more of a 'get it first' from third parties vs building out a development stable and owning all aspects of the IP.

Heck, even Gears I believe is fully owned by Epic and Epic have stated they can do what they want with the IP.  Now, with MS publishing it I don't think it's going to appear anywhere else, but the point remains, a lot of titles a casual owner might think of as exclusive aren't strictly speaking fully exclusive in the same way as say Super Mario Galaxy or God of War.

Without a dominant HD console I'd argue this sort of thing was inevitable.  Franchises Sony fans thought of as exclusive - that technically weren't - such as Final Fantasy, etc. saw debuts on 360 and of course we're seeing franchises that Microsoft fans thought of as exclusive - that technically weren't - seeing debuts on PS3.

I guess if exclusives really matter then it's best to know if a title really is exclusive the way you think - i.e. does Sony or Microsoft fully own or develop it?  If not, then I'd suggest it's best to assume it might pop up elsewhere at some point.

For myself, if you like the game and had fun I really never get the issue of taking it personally - I see comments about broken promises, for example, when there was no promise to break.

When I play Mass Effect on PC I don't worry about console, when I play Final Fantasy on PS3 I don't care it's on 360.



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Torillian said:

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/103/index/5188310

basically the rumor is true except for the 6 hour mission which was a communication error.


wow, there are pretty intense meltdowns going on on that site



“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”

- George Orwell, ‘1984’

Porcupine_I said:
Torillian said:

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/103/index/5188310

basically the rumor is true except for the 6 hour mission which was a communication error.


wow, there are pretty intense meltdowns going on on that site

Anything up there with "Lucas raped my childhood" levels of meltdown?  For me that's the bar for fanboy meltdowns and nothing since Phantom Menace launched has come close, although I've seen a fair few videogame fans give it a run for its money.

Anyway, the 6 hour mission always felt dubious.  Even if it had existed no way would they develop something like that and not release it on PC/360 later.  As a PC player of the franchise I remain confident that anything exclusive for PS3 of any real note will hit PC in due time.  I don't expect the comic, though it sounds cool.  The comic is to replace ME which I have so apart from fan interest it's nothing new I actually need since I have Mass Effect.



Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...

Reasonable said:
Porcupine_I said:
Torillian said:

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/103/index/5188310

basically the rumor is true except for the 6 hour mission which was a communication error.


wow, there are pretty intense meltdowns going on on that site

Anything up there with "Lucas raped my childhood" levels of meltdown?  For me that's the bar for fanboy meltdowns and nothing since Phantom Menace launched has come close, although I've seen a fair few videogame fans give it a run for its money.

Anyway, the 6 hour mission always felt dubious.  Even if it had existed no way would they develop something like that and not release it on PC/360 later.  As a PC player of the franchise I remain confident that anything exclusive for PS3 of any real note will hit PC in due time.  I don't expect the comic, though it sounds cool.  The comic is to replace ME which I have so apart from fan interest it's nothing new I actually need since I have Mass Effect.


agreed, it's certainly an interesting idea to get people caught up though while still letting them make some of the most important choices throughout the first game.  I was curious how they'd solve that problem and this seems like a pretty good solution.

The link mentions some exclusive DLC but that's probably timed exclusive if anything.



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themanwithnoname said:
lestatdark said:
themanwithnoname said:

6 hours of new gameplay? Feck off EA, way to stab everybody who's followed this series for the last 3 years in the back.

I've been following the series for the past 3 years, both games on my 360, and why should I feel like I was stabbed in the back? True, they could add the 6 hours of new gameplay via DLC to the 360 version, but they need a selling point for old ME fans and not just new crowd. 

Think of it like an GOTY edition of ME2.

I'm missing the part where I'm supposed to be happy that they're trying to make people rebuy this game, or in my case, a console and the game I've already bought just to access stuff that people who've already bought the game once should access.

I should've figured this kind of shenanigans ever since EA bought BioWare though. At least we still have Lionhead, which at least guarantees us to see the whole freaking game instead of exclusive DLC nonsense.

Once again, how's that different from a GOTY edition from any game? True, they should allow Via DLC any extra content in the PS3 for the 360/PC version as well, but I just don't see the difference from any other game in the past.

These "shenanigans" as you call them happens in almost every company, and this isn't an EA related issue. How about all the "exclusive" DLC that either a PS3 or 360 version of a game gets?



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chocoloco said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
chocoloco said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
chocoloco said:
hatmoza said:

I'm so happy I decided not to get this on  the 360.

Good things come to those who wait.

The early birdf always gegts the worm. :P

Oh wait, I got screwed.


I played the 360 version and dont feel screwed at all. PS3 owners have missed out on quite a bit of Mass Effect series. I feel the 6 hours plus extra content is the least they could do to fill in the gaps for them. 360 gamers can go on business as usual. If a 360 And I afree the owner is a true Mass Effect fan they really wont miss out on very much, being that there are novels, comics, DLC and a 40 hr exclusive game  that they have right now which PS3 fans have to either wait for or wont even be able to touch.

I was being a little dramatic, but I mostly remain bitter that I was told it was an exclusive and it was not. In the end,  I am happier to play it early and on the 360 because I could transfer my data from ME to 2 and I know I understand ME world a million times more due to playing the first one. I agree the game was long enough as it was, but I am tired of microsofts lies.


It's not Microsofts fault though bro. It's EA's. Microsoft are to blame only for being dumbasses and not purchasing Bioware. EA bought them and everyone know EA love Sony. From the second of that purchase we all predicted the outcome. Secondly....don't hold to hope for anymore 3rd party PC/360 exclusives from Valve either. Left4Dead is most likely going to go to the PS3 as well Thanks to Valves newfound love for the PS3.

In the end, I blame Microsoft because they are not providing me with many unique experiences that will never go to the PS3. I am not about preventing one console owners from enjoying a great game I just need reasons to justify owning both and Microsoft is not doing as good of a job for me because I want original games, the new ESPN thing is great, but I want non-Kinect games. I also expect L4D to go to PS3 and hope it does, but it will only make me think of the xbox as the HALO and GEARS box thats not very much.

I can share your anger at Microsoft. Their own stupidity landed them in this position. I wont buy another Xbox until they shape up.



Reasonable said:
Porcupine_I said:
Torillian said:

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/103/index/5188310

basically the rumor is true except for the 6 hour mission which was a communication error.


wow, there are pretty intense meltdowns going on on that site

Anything up there with "Lucas raped my childhood" levels of meltdown?  For me that's the bar for fanboy meltdowns and nothing since Phantom Menace launched has come close, although I've seen a fair few videogame fans give it a run for its money.

Anyway, the 6 hour mission always felt dubious.  Even if it had existed no way would they develop something like that and not release it on PC/360 later.  As a PC player of the franchise I remain confident that anything exclusive for PS3 of any real note will hit PC in due time.  I don't expect the comic, though it sounds cool.  The comic is to replace ME which I have so apart from fan interest it's nothing new I actually need since I have Mass Effect.

it's moot to discuss it now, but the only way i could have imagined the "6 hour mission" would have been a condensed version of the first game as "introduction"



“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”

- George Orwell, ‘1984’

Reasonable said:
chocoloco said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
chocoloco said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
chocoloco said:
hatmoza said:

In the end, I blame Microsoft because they are not providing me with many unique experiences that will never go to the PS3. I am not about preventing one console owners from enjoying a great game I just need reasons to justify owning both and Microsoft is not doing as good of a job for me because I want original games, the new ESPN thing is great, but I want non-Kinect games. I also expect L4D to go to PS3 and hope it does, but it will only make me think of the xbox as the HALO and GEARS box thats not very much.

I guess people who have 360s need to understand the different level in 1st party support vs Nintendo/Sony.  Microsoft has never, so far as I am aware, invested in the same level of 1st party support as the others.  MS will commission timed exclusives, timed DLC, etc. and will enter into agreements for titles that are only for 360.

As a result, unless the developer choses to give MS IP or publishing rights the console will always be in a position where a lot of titles its owners think are exclusive can go multi-platform.  This might be a switch such as Valve's as you mention, or it could be a change of direction or ownership - such as EA buying Bioware.

Not saying Nintendo/Sony are better consoles or anything - just that if this kind of thing matters to you its important to understand the market situation and each company's approach.  So far this gen MS has taken more of a 'get it first' from third parties vs building out a development stable and owning all aspects of the IP.

Heck, even Gears I believe is fully owned by Epic and Epic have stated they can do what they want with the IP.  Now, with MS publishing it I don't think it's going to appear anywhere else, but the point remains, a lot of titles a casual owner might think of as exclusive aren't strictly speaking fully exclusive in the same way as say Super Mario Galaxy or God of War.

Without a dominant HD console I'd argue this sort of thing was inevitable.  Franchises Sony fans thought of as exclusive - that technically weren't - such as Final Fantasy, etc. saw debuts on 360 and of course we're seeing franchises that Microsoft fans thought of as exclusive - that technically weren't - seeing debuts on PS3.

I guess if exclusives really matter then it's best to know if a title really is exclusive the way you think - i.e. does Sony or Microsoft fully own or develop it?  If not, then I'd suggest it's best to assume it might pop up elsewhere at some point.

For myself, if you like the game and had fun I really never get the issue of taking it personally - I see comments about broken promises, for example, when there was no promise to break.

When I play Mass Effect on PC I don't worry about console, when I play Final Fantasy on PS3 I don't care it's on 360.

I've easily excepted this, but I go on these forums and complain about Microsoft in the very, very, very small hope that they will change their policy of paying for first chances on third party support. If no one complains or stops supporting actions they deem as actions that don't help the consumer (such as claiming exclusivity when it is only temporary as we are discussing) than nothing will change and Microsoft gets a free ride by living off of peoples ignorance or apathy towards the situation. I play games exclusive or not on both my 360 and PS3, but I am not getting as much from Microsoft so I will complain until they help the consumer by either n ot continually raising the price for live or buying their own studios. Until they do that they are showing they are not committed as heavily as Nintendo/ Sony to long term gaming support. I know a companies main goal is profit, but I would like to see Microsoft actually give multi system owners more reason to continually support them. Kinect was made for games that don't cater to my interests so it does not count. Better end my rant.



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