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to put people minds at rest im gonna finally admit my evil doings! i have been buying million of extra ps3's off sony!  thats where all those extra ps3's are going. since 2008! i was walking to the store and kaz hirai came to me with this deal. i couldnt refuse! SONY ARE EVIL!  really they sold like 5 million ps3's in the past 2 years!! i have about 25 million up in my loft.



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SOLIDSNAKE08 said:

to put people minds at rest im gonna finally admit my evil doings! i have been buying million of extra ps3's off sony!  thats where all those extra ps3's are going. since 2008! i was walking to the store and kaz hirai came to me with this deal. i couldnt refuse! SONY ARE EVIL!  really they sold like 5 million ps3's in the past 2 years!! i have about 25 million up in my loft.

25 million ps3s wouldn't fit in a loft



Wagram said:
eliasg said:
Eddie_Raja said:

It's time for people to finally admit that xbox360 is not slaughtering PS3, and it NEVER was.  PS3 will probably overtake 360 in 2011 without leaving any chance of 360 getting it back.

Microsoft is winning in the two largest markets of the world USA and UK, so... NO. 


How old is this thread? I think someone bumped it... :/

Also UK doesn't equal EMEAA which is where the PS3 is dominating atm.


I wouldn't say dominating, as the Wii is still beating pretty handlily. If you mean against the 360, it's winning outside of the U.K., but not by a huge margin. The marging with the PS3 and 360 in the U.S. is much larger. The only thing really keeping the PS3 in the game is Japan. If Japan was out of the equation the PS3 would be losing handily. If the U.S. had the same mindset for the PS3 as Japanese gamers have toward the XBox 360, this little sales war would be over right now.



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Hyruken said:
Carl2291 said:
Hyruken said:

If your talking hardware sales overall then yes. if your talking about hardware this generation and money made then no.

For 2010 in Japan between the Wii,PS3 and 360 3.425m consoles were sold. Where as in the UK 3.639m consoles were sold.

So technically because this is a thread about the 360 and PS3 he is right. In terms of just those 2 consoles combined last year only 1.7m were bought in japan. Where as 2.4m were sold in the UK.

Meaning UK sold more next gen consoles then Japan last year.

Now there are many reasons for that such as 360 not doing well in comparison to the others in Japan. But doesn't make the comparison un-fair. It just means people in the UK are happy to buy anything no matter where it is from. Because of that attitude means console sales are higher.

So in terms of next gen consoles i.e 360 and PS3 UK is a bigger market then Japan. Is as he said the 2nd biggest next gen market in the world currently.

I have not checked but i imagine software wise it is the same.

I'm talking total HW sales, not just PS3/360. Japan is a bigger market for videogames than the UK is. If he was talking just the 2 HD consoles then sure, he's right on the point that they are the 2 largest markets. 

My main point is... It's stupid touting 2 countries as to why a console will win, when there are MANY other countries in this World.


For sure, i 100% agree!

He's right and there's another game console called the THE WII that's in the equation that gamers for some small reason seem to forget is beating the pants off that 2 HD consoles. LOL!! It's amazing how the fight for 2nd place starts so many threads. Did we have this many threads between the XBox and Gamecube last generation?



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XanderZane said:
Hyruken said:
Carl2291 said:
Hyruken said:

If your talking hardware sales overall then yes. if your talking about hardware this generation and money made then no.

For 2010 in Japan between the Wii,PS3 and 360 3.425m consoles were sold. Where as in the UK 3.639m consoles were sold.

So technically because this is a thread about the 360 and PS3 he is right. In terms of just those 2 consoles combined last year only 1.7m were bought in japan. Where as 2.4m were sold in the UK.

Meaning UK sold more next gen consoles then Japan last year.

Now there are many reasons for that such as 360 not doing well in comparison to the others in Japan. But doesn't make the comparison un-fair. It just means people in the UK are happy to buy anything no matter where it is from. Because of that attitude means console sales are higher.

So in terms of next gen consoles i.e 360 and PS3 UK is a bigger market then Japan. Is as he said the 2nd biggest next gen market in the world currently.

I have not checked but i imagine software wise it is the same.

I'm talking total HW sales, not just PS3/360. Japan is a bigger market for videogames than the UK is. If he was talking just the 2 HD consoles then sure, he's right on the point that they are the 2 largest markets. 

My main point is... It's stupid touting 2 countries as to why a console will win, when there are MANY other countries in this World.


For sure, i 100% agree!

He's right and there's another game console called the THE WII that's in the equation that gamers for some small reason seem to forget is beating the pants off that 2 HD consoles. LOL!! It's amazing how the fight for 2nd place starts so many threads. Did we have this many threads between the XBox and Gamecube last generation?

Those two consoles were not worthy of first place.  This is a different scenario.  The PS3 and 360 situation is just more interesting to most people here.



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First of all these Sony shipment numbers are confusing me. I know at Gamestop we've actually been overstocked on them for a while so maybe Sony overshipped or something.

Also I don't see that happening, I fully expect a 360 price drop this year, plus with Kinect and Gears 3 I expect the 360 to outsell PS3 in 2011.



BenVTrigger said:

First of all these Sony shipment numbers are confusing me. I know at Gamestop we've actually been overstocked on them for a while so maybe Sony overshipped or something.

Also I don't see that happening, I fully expect a 360 price drop this year, plus with Kinect and Gears 3 I expect the 360 to outsell PS3 in 2011.

What's confusing they shipped that many, their shipped numbers always look high but they rarely are they can't always be over-shipping, since it's the retailers that order them 



endoftheworld166 said:
BenVTrigger said:

First of all these Sony shipment numbers are confusing me. I know at Gamestop we've actually been overstocked on them for a while so maybe Sony overshipped or something.

Also I don't see that happening, I fully expect a 360 price drop this year, plus with Kinect and Gears 3 I expect the 360 to outsell PS3 in 2011.

What's confusing they shipped that many, their shipped numbers always look high but they rarely are they can't always be over-shipping, since it's the retailers that order them 

I'm not neccessarily claiming that Sony has overshipped I'm just saying the numbers don't look right.  They must be selling more units in Europe than America's by a huge amount.

I've seen some of company numbers and the 360 absolutley slaughtered the PS3 company wide this holiday, it wasn't even close. We had consistant stock company wide on all PS3 models while we had huge shortages on 360 which probably also were part of the reason 360 shipments looked low, they couldn't meet demand. 

I'm not basing this off of fomulas or personal "well I went to my local wal-mart and it looked like this" stuff.  I've seen the numbers SOLD to consumer for a huge chunk of the company and something is off.  As I said I expect Europe must be the reason shipment numbers are so high for Sony.



BenVTrigger said:
endoftheworld166 said:
BenVTrigger said:

First of all these Sony shipment numbers are confusing me. I know at Gamestop we've actually been overstocked on them for a while so maybe Sony overshipped or something.

Also I don't see that happening, I fully expect a 360 price drop this year, plus with Kinect and Gears 3 I expect the 360 to outsell PS3 in 2011.

What's confusing they shipped that many, their shipped numbers always look high but they rarely are they can't always be over-shipping, since it's the retailers that order them 

I'm not neccessarily claiming that Sony has overshipped I'm just saying the numbers don't look right.  They must be selling more units in Europe than America's by a huge amount.

I've seen some of company numbers and the 360 absolutley slaughtered the PS3 company wide this holiday, it wasn't even close. We had consistant stock company wide on all PS3 models while we had huge shortages on 360 which probably also were part of the reason 360 shipments looked low, they couldn't meet demand. 

I'm not basing this off of fomulas or personal "well I went to my local wal-mart and it looked like this" stuff.  I've seen the numbers SOLD to consumer for a huge chunk of the company and something is off.  As I said I expect Europe must be the reason shipment numbers are so high for Sony.

You do realize the world is bigger the Europe and America right? Sony ships to like 150 countries, more then even nintendo, ps3 beats 360 pretty much everywhere but NA and UK so it's no real surprise it's numbers look high when you fail to account for that many countries 



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