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What do you want to see from the new dragon ball?

continue from where he left off 22 61.11%
 
reboot 9 25.00%
 
bridge the time skip 2 5.56%
 
prequel (specify) 0 0%
 
whole new bunch of characters 2 5.56%
 
Dragon ball online tie in 1 2.78%
 
Total:36
SaviorX said:
Kasz216 said:
SaviorX said:
Kasz216 said:

I'd like to see them focus more on the rest fo the cast and let them actually accomplish things... vs just them waiting around/trying to live until Goku/Gohan survive.

The strength of anime with lots of fighting is having a large cast so they can take turns using their special moves and developing powers so it doesn't become dull.

 

Early Dragon Ball stuff was cool, though Goku was the strongest everyone had something to contribute.   Towards the end of Dragonball Z, it was basically Goku or bust.

 

Yu Yu Hakusho shows the right way to set up battles in a series like this.


I agree. Although Goku was the best, I was always happier when lesser guys like Yamcha and especially Tien got ther time in the limelight. Adult Trunks was my favorite character out of all of them.

The other guys need to actually DEFEAT something. Mainly, they just served as appetizers until Goku came and cleared house.......


I think the real problem is, humans have a very set limit... so once they hit the wall, they all became irrelevent, sure they could learn a new trick or two, but at the level the saiyans and enemies were skyrocketing... they were screwed.

They need some sort of mystical powerup or Ki breakthrough.

Human's were never the strongest but always got through via their resourcefullness... but eventually the power levels got so high that it didn't help.


I propose Senzu Steroids.Both humans and Saiyans used Senzu beans to great effects; let Bulma genetically alter a Senzu Seed and let Yamcha shit spirit bombs.

Haha, they need something.  It's a bit understated how resourcefull humans could be too...

I mean think of the power difference between Kirllin and Nappa... yet Krillin underpowered as he was could of killed Nappa with his Disc even though the saiyans thought at that level nothing could harm them.  Luckily for him Vegeta caught on.  Same with not needing scouters which pretty much every other race in the Freeza empire needed.

What humans do with so little is neat, it'd be great to see what they could do with more power.



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Kasz216 said:
Mr Khan said:

What is everyone's problem with GT? I've never heard of all this hate for GT until recently, and all of it localized on this site

Really?  I've never heard a positive thing said about it before honestly.  Well ok that's exagerating, but i haven't seen much positive about it.


The biggest complaints I've seen with it tends to stem from the fact that

 

A)  it was a pure cash in, and what's his face (too lazy to look up in the thread) didn't actually wanna do it.

Of course, i'm pretty sure that was also the case after the first story with vegeta... and then after freeza he didn't want to make anymore... etc.

He just seems to do that periodically.  So i don't get that complaint.

 

B) Everything after the Freeza saga sucked anyway, and the entirity of GT was after this.

I get this one... after the Frieza saga, the majority of the cast became useless.  Humans seemed to have a set limitation to their power... and once they got past the Ginyu force level guys, Krilin, Yamcha, Tien... and hell even Picolo were pretty much useless (until piccolo got powered up.)  Basically, outside of the 4 saiyans... everyone was just pointless.

GT, if I remember correctly made this actually worse by just eliminating most of the cast for large portions of it, cutting down to just Young Goku, Pan and I don't even remember the other people.  Pan being a new character, nobody cared about her, and was upset that their favorite wasn't on the ride.

Personally I liked a lot of the Cell/Android stuff if only to see picolo's brief stand on the top again.   After that though I know I lost interest.  Honestly, Goku suffers from what I call "annoying main character syndrome".   In that, i like the show, but the main character is annoying as hell, and when they focus on him too much I'm out.  

 

C)  It was just... weird.  

Which it was... a lot of the early Baby stuff was just... weird.    Also, they went through all the trouble of finally saying "hey the dues ex machina dragon balls actually have a negative consequence, so stop abusing them!"   Except, they just beat em, and it's all back to normal I think.

 

D) The animation looks weird.   

It is definitly a different style somehow.

 

Edit: Oh yeah

E) Goku is a child again?   That's kinda creepy and feels like an excuse to drag out the series forever.

I can see it.

F) Wasn't the end of Dragoball about Gohan inheriting the role of Earth's protector and Earth's strongest from Goku?  Why the F isn't he the main character instead of Goku?

Makes sense, really making Goku young again almost feels like away around needing Gohan as a main character.

I imagine he wanted to recapture the feel of Dragonball when he made GT, hence young Goku and Space Adventure for the Dragonballs

As for Gohan's ascendency, yeah, that was the point of the whole Cell saga, but that was already out the window with Buu (but you see, i liked Vegeta, so i liked the Buu saga, given that the whole point of that was Goku and Vegeta finally making peace)



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Mr Khan said:
Kasz216 said:
Mr Khan said:

What is everyone's problem with GT? I've never heard of all this hate for GT until recently, and all of it localized on this site

Really?  I've never heard a positive thing said about it before honestly.  Well ok that's exagerating, but i haven't seen much positive about it.


The biggest complaints I've seen with it tends to stem from the fact that

 

A)  it was a pure cash in, and what's his face (too lazy to look up in the thread) didn't actually wanna do it.

Of course, i'm pretty sure that was also the case after the first story with vegeta... and then after freeza he didn't want to make anymore... etc.

He just seems to do that periodically.  So i don't get that complaint.

 

B) Everything after the Freeza saga sucked anyway, and the entirity of GT was after this.

I get this one... after the Frieza saga, the majority of the cast became useless.  Humans seemed to have a set limitation to their power... and once they got past the Ginyu force level guys, Krilin, Yamcha, Tien... and hell even Picolo were pretty much useless (until piccolo got powered up.)  Basically, outside of the 4 saiyans... everyone was just pointless.

GT, if I remember correctly made this actually worse by just eliminating most of the cast for large portions of it, cutting down to just Young Goku, Pan and I don't even remember the other people.  Pan being a new character, nobody cared about her, and was upset that their favorite wasn't on the ride.

Personally I liked a lot of the Cell/Android stuff if only to see picolo's brief stand on the top again.   After that though I know I lost interest.  Honestly, Goku suffers from what I call "annoying main character syndrome".   In that, i like the show, but the main character is annoying as hell, and when they focus on him too much I'm out.  

 

C)  It was just... weird.  

Which it was... a lot of the early Baby stuff was just... weird.    Also, they went through all the trouble of finally saying "hey the dues ex machina dragon balls actually have a negative consequence, so stop abusing them!"   Except, they just beat em, and it's all back to normal I think.

 

D) The animation looks weird.   

It is definitly a different style somehow.

 

Edit: Oh yeah

E) Goku is a child again?   That's kinda creepy and feels like an excuse to drag out the series forever.

I can see it.

F) Wasn't the end of Dragoball about Gohan inheriting the role of Earth's protector and Earth's strongest from Goku?  Why the F isn't he the main character instead of Goku?

Makes sense, really making Goku young again almost feels like away around needing Gohan as a main character.

I imagine he wanted to recapture the feel of Dragonball when he made GT, hence young Goku and Space Adventure for the Dragonballs

As for Gohan's ascendency, yeah, that was the point of the whole Cell saga, but that was already out the window with Buu (but you see, i liked Vegeta, so i liked the Buu saga, given that the whole point of that was Goku and Vegeta finally making peace)


Toriyama didn't make GT. It was a cash in after the huge success of Z. 



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leatherhat said:
Mr Khan said:
Kasz216 said:
Mr Khan said:

What is everyone's problem with GT? I've never heard of all this hate for GT until recently, and all of it localized on this site

Really?  I've never heard a positive thing said about it before honestly.  Well ok that's exagerating, but i haven't seen much positive about it.


The biggest complaints I've seen with it tends to stem from the fact that

 

A)  it was a pure cash in, and what's his face (too lazy to look up in the thread) didn't actually wanna do it.

Of course, i'm pretty sure that was also the case after the first story with vegeta... and then after freeza he didn't want to make anymore... etc.

He just seems to do that periodically.  So i don't get that complaint.

 

B) Everything after the Freeza saga sucked anyway, and the entirity of GT was after this.

I get this one... after the Frieza saga, the majority of the cast became useless.  Humans seemed to have a set limitation to their power... and once they got past the Ginyu force level guys, Krilin, Yamcha, Tien... and hell even Picolo were pretty much useless (until piccolo got powered up.)  Basically, outside of the 4 saiyans... everyone was just pointless.

GT, if I remember correctly made this actually worse by just eliminating most of the cast for large portions of it, cutting down to just Young Goku, Pan and I don't even remember the other people.  Pan being a new character, nobody cared about her, and was upset that their favorite wasn't on the ride.

Personally I liked a lot of the Cell/Android stuff if only to see picolo's brief stand on the top again.   After that though I know I lost interest.  Honestly, Goku suffers from what I call "annoying main character syndrome".   In that, i like the show, but the main character is annoying as hell, and when they focus on him too much I'm out.  

 

C)  It was just... weird.  

Which it was... a lot of the early Baby stuff was just... weird.    Also, they went through all the trouble of finally saying "hey the dues ex machina dragon balls actually have a negative consequence, so stop abusing them!"   Except, they just beat em, and it's all back to normal I think.

 

D) The animation looks weird.   

It is definitly a different style somehow.

 

Edit: Oh yeah

E) Goku is a child again?   That's kinda creepy and feels like an excuse to drag out the series forever.

I can see it.

F) Wasn't the end of Dragoball about Gohan inheriting the role of Earth's protector and Earth's strongest from Goku?  Why the F isn't he the main character instead of Goku?

Makes sense, really making Goku young again almost feels like away around needing Gohan as a main character.

I imagine he wanted to recapture the feel of Dragonball when he made GT, hence young Goku and Space Adventure for the Dragonballs

As for Gohan's ascendency, yeah, that was the point of the whole Cell saga, but that was already out the window with Buu (but you see, i liked Vegeta, so i liked the Buu saga, given that the whole point of that was Goku and Vegeta finally making peace)


Toriyama didn't make GT. It was a cash in after the huge success of Z. 

Hmm... wasn't aware of that

That explains a lot



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I really liked Dragonball.....Disliked Dragonball Z....And GT...oh god horrible!!

Anyway maybe he should make a prequel?



 

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Mr Khan said:

I imagine he wanted to recapture the feel of Dragonball when he made GT, hence young Goku and Space Adventure for the Dragonballs

As for Gohan's ascendency, yeah, that was the point of the whole Cell saga, but that was already out the window with Buu (but you see, i liked Vegeta, so i liked the Buu saga, given that the whole point of that was Goku and Vegeta finally making peace)

This is true, but by the end of it Gohan was stronger than Goku even at Super Sayan level 3.  Though I don't know why Gohan couldn't transform after that power up.  I'm still not that far with my seasons and japanese watching to know what the explanation was (There's so much that never got explained in the english dub it's ridiculas)



Rath said:

Dragon Ball chased its on tail way too much. It made its villains more powerful, then its heroes, then its villains and so on.

They went from being amazed at a power level of 9000 to having Goku have a power level of 150,000,000 when battling Frieza as a Super Saiyan - this was only part of the way in. By the end it just got absurd.


I completely agree with this.

Really, Freeza was able to destroy (big) planets. Then Goku surpassed him. And after that there were androids who could defeat them easily, and then cell, then his better forms, then perfect cell, all of which orders of magnetude stronger than the last. They defeated them all. Then this guy comes and says "but this enemy is really strong, he could destroy an entire planet!". So what, by now Goku should be able to explode the sun with a fart.



Make Gohan and Trunks not into such douches in the future would be a good start (talking about GT). I would also love to see Vegeta finally reaching Goku's level but still not being capable of beating him (as in SSJ3 vs. SSJ3). And yes, like another poster said, not shift all of the attention on Goku. One of the main reasons I loved the Cell Saga was because Goku wasn't the final hero in the battle.

He should just continue off from DBZ and scrap GT entirely.



Mr Khan said:
Kasz216 said:
Mr Khan said:

What is everyone's problem with GT? I've never heard of all this hate for GT until recently, and all of it localized on this site

Really?  I've never heard a positive thing said about it before honestly.  Well ok that's exagerating, but i haven't seen much positive about it.


The biggest complaints I've seen with it tends to stem from the fact that

 

A)  it was a pure cash in, and what's his face (too lazy to look up in the thread) didn't actually wanna do it.

Of course, i'm pretty sure that was also the case after the first story with vegeta... and then after freeza he didn't want to make anymore... etc.

He just seems to do that periodically.  So i don't get that complaint.

 

B) Everything after the Freeza saga sucked anyway, and the entirity of GT was after this.

I get this one... after the Frieza saga, the majority of the cast became useless.  Humans seemed to have a set limitation to their power... and once they got past the Ginyu force level guys, Krilin, Yamcha, Tien... and hell even Picolo were pretty much useless (until piccolo got powered up.)  Basically, outside of the 4 saiyans... everyone was just pointless.

GT, if I remember correctly made this actually worse by just eliminating most of the cast for large portions of it, cutting down to just Young Goku, Pan and I don't even remember the other people.  Pan being a new character, nobody cared about her, and was upset that their favorite wasn't on the ride.

Personally I liked a lot of the Cell/Android stuff if only to see picolo's brief stand on the top again.   After that though I know I lost interest.  Honestly, Goku suffers from what I call "annoying main character syndrome".   In that, i like the show, but the main character is annoying as hell, and when they focus on him too much I'm out.  

 

C)  It was just... weird.  

Which it was... a lot of the early Baby stuff was just... weird.    Also, they went through all the trouble of finally saying "hey the dues ex machina dragon balls actually have a negative consequence, so stop abusing them!"   Except, they just beat em, and it's all back to normal I think.

 

D) The animation looks weird.   

It is definitly a different style somehow.

 

Edit: Oh yeah

E) Goku is a child again?   That's kinda creepy and feels like an excuse to drag out the series forever.

I can see it.

F) Wasn't the end of Dragoball about Gohan inheriting the role of Earth's protector and Earth's strongest from Goku?  Why the F isn't he the main character instead of Goku?

Makes sense, really making Goku young again almost feels like away around needing Gohan as a main character.

I imagine he wanted to recapture the feel of Dragonball when he made GT, hence young Goku and Space Adventure for the Dragonballs

As for Gohan's ascendency, yeah, that was the point of the whole Cell saga, but that was already out the window with Buu (but you see, i liked Vegeta, so i liked the Buu saga, given that the whole point of that was Goku and Vegeta finally making peace)

It didn't really work though.  For me anyway.   I mean he was still grown up Goku.  Kid Goku was a whole differnet personality. 

Ironically I didn't like the Buu saga partially because I liked Vegeta.   I mean he threw away all the character development he had, threw away his family and murdered a bunch of innocnet people on a planet he adopted... so he could win a fight with Goku.

Except even then he wouldn't of REALLY won... and i think even he would of saw it as such.  (before the buu saga.)