@scootie  after someone plays some of those games and find them to be buggy, inaccurate and not that much fun why wouldnt it surprise some people who dont like them??? Has anyone ever thought that people have played some of these "casual" games and geuniely does not like them???? Its not "hardcorez" hating on those games just to hate. Ive had Wii for 2 and a half years so im positive im not just talking out my ass when I say I just dont like those games. Lot of people do, and thats ok

@scootie  I dont even think youve ever played an actual SF game. you cant do your best by button mashing. im pretty sure there are some very specific movements with the joystick in where you have to do get some of the special moves. Smash Bros. is like my "1st fighting game" all you can do is mash buttons and jump around occasional, hell half that game is luck anyway, where your relying mostly on randomly generated items.

I wonder who has poor variety, sports nuts or fitness fans.

Quality of that nature is subjective more to people who haven't experienced anything better then the game actually being quality on it's own. Obviously I can't know for certain, but I can say with fair confidence that the people who loved Just Dance probably have never played DDR.

I wasn't so much talking to you re: the Kinect Lineup, I was mostly talking to OP, whos complaint ran along the lines of

"These games suck, I would much prefer to play Call of Duty."

To which my response will always be "ok, go play Call of Duty and stop bothering us"

The OP certainly has not played any of these games, and it is certainly a case of "hardcorez" hating on those games just to hate.

So which particular games do you think are buggy/innacurate/not that much fun/shit in some other way?

Can you see the good qualities of Wii shovelware too?

This can't be a serious post

First off, I wasn't calling you an elitist gamer; with that said, I also don't think you understood my point ...

Even though I think it is appropriate to call Nintendo a very innovative company, they did not invent most of the genres they have seen success with recently; and in many cases you can find similar games that were not nearly as successful being released on many platforms. Why Nintendo has been successful where so many other companies have failed is because they have brought accessibility and polish to genres which have typically been ignored; and these qualities tend to be overlooked by reviewers and core-gamers when they assess the quality of these games. If you actually sit down and play the games that have been highly successful on the Wii and compare them to very similar games that have been ignored you will see a massive difference in quality; and many of these poor selling videogames have broken gameplay mechanics and are simply not fun, but these differences in quality tend to get ignored and all these titles are grouped together.

I'm not claiming you have to like these titles, but claiming that people will flock to Kinect titles because they enjoyed similar games on the Wii is kind of like claiming The Conduit would sell well because Halo sold well on the XBox 360.

I've played a fair bit of it, always just havin fun with friends and never actually trying to get good

Mashing buttons in Smash Bros is not an option. It has reached the stage where if a person button bashes, I can reliably kill them without taking a single % of damage.

As for the randomly generated items thing that comes up every time someone who doesn't know a thing about Smash Bros talks about smash bros, yes, there are randomly generated items. No, you cannot rely on them. Select an item from Brawl, and I shall instruct you in how you can make the opponent picking that item up either do nothing, or in some cases be a liability

http://super-smash-bros.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_items_in_Super_Smash_Bros._Brawl

N.B. I play with healing turned off, because I will admit the healing items can be a bit OP

sadly, it is. But going after it would derail the topic so don't bother is what I say