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Shadowblind on 19 October 2010
Garland said:


LOL, good luck to them on that. Especially when the hype of this thing starts to wear off after December's over. It's not going to last long.

But of course. The Wii was just a fad, after all.



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Farmageddon on 19 October 2010
Garland said:
SpartenOmega117 said:


well they are expecting to sell a lot more consoles too. also the games would also be profitable


LOL, good luck to them on that. Especially when the hype of this thing starts to wear off after December's over. It's not going to last long.


Lol, don't you realise software also makes money? Don't you see they already have a R&D cost to recuperate so adding a few hundred to the add budget doesn't really increase the needed revenue for breaking nearly as much as it could increase awareness?

Really, anyone who thinks this is simply is stupid is being naive.



Garland on 19 October 2010
Shadowblind said:
Garland said:
 


LOL, good luck to them on that. Especially when the hype of this thing starts to wear off after December's over. It's not going to last long.

But of course. The Wii was just a fad, after all.


Yeah, keep defending garbage products like that & Kinect. All I know is that Kinect came four years too late into this gen, & I don't think that it's going to make a huge impact in the long run.

Enjoy all those shovelware games. LOL.



Shadowblind on 19 October 2010
Garland said:
Shadowblind said:
Garland said:
 


LOL, good luck to them on that. Especially when the hype of this thing starts to wear off after December's over. It's not going to last long.

But of course. The Wii was just a fad, after all.


Yeah, keep defending garbage products like that & Kinect. All I know is that they came four years too late into this gen, & I don't think that it's going to make a huge impact in the long run.

Enjoy all those shovelware games. LOL.

Not sure about defending Kinect, seeing as I have no current plans on purchasing it, but the idea that hype will just randomly disappear is pre-2007. Especially for these kinds of things. I've lost count of how many times I've seen people say the Wii's hype would vanish. It's 2010 and the Wii's sales have only recently put it in last place in sales, after practically outselling the 360 and PS3 combined throughout it's life.



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Mr Puggsly on 19 October 2010
Farmageddon said:


I think it had to do with Microsoft wanting to focus on Xbox instead of games for windows, which clearly was in disagreement with Ensemble's speciality.

There was probably more to it than we know of course, but it sucks anyway, Robot entertainment has some of the former guys from Ensemble, but others also formed a couple other studios, and they lost their precious IP, so it's not like they're just not under Microsoft anymore.

Technically, they lost their "precious IP" when MS bought the studio. Ensemble is MS's property and so is AoE.

The reason MS has Robot Entertainment working on AoE is because those were the key people at Ensemble studios.



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Garland on 19 October 2010
Shadowblind said:
Garland said:
Shadowblind said:
Garland said:
 


LOL, good luck to them on that. Especially when the hype of this thing starts to wear off after December's over. It's not going to last long.

But of course. The Wii was just a fad, after all.


Yeah, keep defending garbage products like that & Kinect. All I know is that they came four years too late into this gen, & I don't think that it's going to make a huge impact in the long run.

Enjoy all those shovelware games. LOL.

Not sure about defending Kinect, seeing as I have no current plans on purchasing it, but the idea that hype will just randomly disappear is pre-2007. Especially for these kinds of things. I've lost count of how many times I've seen people say the Wii's hype would vanish. It's 2010 and the Wii's sales have only recently put it in last place in sales, after practically outselling the 360 and PS3 combined throughout it's life.


That's because most of those that bought a Wii aren't real gamers (most of them were casuals/non-gamers) who don't know what the heck a good game is. Do you honestly think real gamers like myself want to play games such as Wii Fit, Cooking Mama, & most of the games that's on Kinect & Move, etc.? I don't think so. I can do all those things in real life. Give people a few days to a week, tops, & they'll want to go back to playing good games with a regular controller.



Shadowblind on 19 October 2010
Garland said:
Shadowblind said:
Garland said:
Shadowblind said:
Garland said:
 


LOL, good luck to them on that. Especially when the hype of this thing starts to wear off after December's over. It's not going to last long.

But of course. The Wii was just a fad, after all.


Yeah, keep defending garbage products like that & Kinect. All I know is that they came four years too late into this gen, & I don't think that it's going to make a huge impact in the long run.

Enjoy all those shovelware games. LOL.

Not sure about defending Kinect, seeing as I have no current plans on purchasing it, but the idea that hype will just randomly disappear is pre-2007. Especially for these kinds of things. I've lost count of how many times I've seen people say the Wii's hype would vanish. It's 2010 and the Wii's sales have only recently put it in last place in sales, after practically outselling the 360 and PS3 combined throughout it's life.


That's because most of those that bought a Wii aren't real gamers (most of them were casuals/non-gamers) who don't know what the heck a good game is. Do you honestly think real gamers like myself want to play games such as Wii Fit, Cooking Mama, etc.? I don't think so. I can do all those things in real life. Give people a few days to a week, tops, & they'll want to go back to playing good games with a regular controller.


I suppose that depends on your definition of "real gamer". Seems to be most of the controversy around that these days . . . as far as "hardcore" gamers go, I think we'll have to wait and see about what they'll do. "Casual" gamers are a whole different matter. Using a friend of mine as an example, she got the Wii and plays it on and off a few times a month. Sure, the game is Wii sports, but when I showed her Halo for the first time she couldn't even move and shoot at the same time. Her coordination for video games isn't that good, which is understandable given that she's never played either a shooter or even a game that requires two joysticks.

But she's great at Wii Sports bowling, and in the end it came down to the accessibility, ease, and addictiveness of playing with the Wiimote.  Without a controller, for gamers like her it mind as well be a perfect match-- she can play the game without needing to worry about any confusing joysticks or buttons at all. Its all intuitive, assuming that it works anyway. Thats the kind of game non-gamers will play. Thats the kind of people Microsoft is targetting. Thats the kind of person who will buy it and love it, regardless of if there are that many good games.



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ninty_shareholder64 on 20 October 2010
Shadowblind said:
Garland said:
Shadowblind said:
Garland said:
Shadowblind said:
Garland said:
 


LOL, good luck to them on that. Especially when the hype of this thing starts to wear off after December's over. It's not going to last long.

But of course. The Wii was just a fad, after all.


Yeah, keep defending garbage products like that & Kinect. All I know is that they came four years too late into this gen, & I don't think that it's going to make a huge impact in the long run.

Enjoy all those shovelware games. LOL.

Not sure about defending Kinect, seeing as I have no current plans on purchasing it, but the idea that hype will just randomly disappear is pre-2007. Especially for these kinds of things. I've lost count of how many times I've seen people say the Wii's hype would vanish. It's 2010 and the Wii's sales have only recently put it in last place in sales, after practically outselling the 360 and PS3 combined throughout it's life.


That's because most of those that bought a Wii aren't real gamers (most of them were casuals/non-gamers) who don't know what the heck a good game is. Do you honestly think real gamers like myself want to play games such as Wii Fit, Cooking Mama, etc.? I don't think so. I can do all those things in real life. Give people a few days to a week, tops, & they'll want to go back to playing good games with a regular controller.


I suppose that depends on your definition of "real gamer". Seems to be most of the controversy around that these days . . . as far as "hardcore" gamers go, I think we'll have to wait and see about what they'll do. "Casual" gamers are a whole different matter. Using a friend of mine as an example, she got the Wii and plays it on and off a few times a month. Sure, the game is Wii sports, but when I showed her Halo for the first time she couldn't even move and shoot at the same time. Her coordination for video games isn't that good, which is understandable given that she's never played either a shooter or even a game that requires two joysticks.

But she's great at Wii Sports bowling, and in the end it came down to the accessibility, ease, and addictiveness of playing with the Wiimote.  Without a controller, for gamers like her it mind as well be a perfect match-- she can play the game without needing to worry about any confusing joysticks or buttons at all. Its all intuitive, assuming that it works anyway. Thats the kind of game non-gamers will play. Thats the kind of people Microsoft is targetting. Thats the kind of person who will buy it and love it, regardless of if there are that many good games.

I don't believe that your last sentence is correct for the "casuals" or even for your friend.

Do you really think these casual-Wii-sports-bowlers will spend ca 300 bucks for XB360  and Kinect, if the games arent fun? I mean, if the Kinect games are just WiiFit, WiiSports, Just Dance clones without adding something interresting and new, no one will spend that much money for "The new thing".

Without system-seller games, Kinect will not succeed in the end, imho.



KichiVerde on 20 October 2010

Tons of recent impressions for Kinect. Almost all positive impressions and those that did not enjoy still admit it will be  hit among casual players. Kinect will be a success. It will change the gaming industry. It will make the Xbox the complete console for both casual and hardcore gamers. its a reality. Accept it and stop your bitching.

 

http://www.xboxgaming.co.za/previews/kinect-hands-on-impressions-rage-expo-2010/

 

http://zombiegamer.co.za/kinect-hands-on-impressions-yay

 

http://www.we-rate-stuff.com/2010/10/microsoft-xbox-kinect-first-impressions.html

 

http://www.itchythumbs.com/2010/09/14/kinect-“body-on”-impression/

 

http://asia.cnet.com/crave/2010/10/07/a-kinect-skeptic-s-first-impressions-on-ubisoft-s-offerings/

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ru0KpAUL3A&feature=player_embedded

http://www.theaveragegamer.com/2010/08/21/kinect-xbox-360-first-impressions/

http://mytakeradio.com/2010/10/1st-impression-kinect/

 

http://www.gameplaybook.com/news/kinect-sports-volleyball-impressions-xbox-360/





ninty_shareholder64 on 20 October 2010
KichiVerde said:

Tons of recent impressions for Kinect. Almost all positive impressions and those that did not enjoy still admit it will be  hit among casual players. Kinect will be a success. It will change the gaming industry. It will make the Xbox the complete console for both casual and hardcore gamers. its a reality. Accept it and stop your bitching.

 

http://www.xboxgaming.co.za/previews/kinect-hands-on-impressions-rage-expo-2010/

 

http://zombiegamer.co.za/kinect-hands-on-impressions-yay

 

http://www.we-rate-stuff.com/2010/10/microsoft-xbox-kinect-first-impressions.html

 

http://www.itchythumbs.com/2010/09/14/kinect-“body-on”-impression/

 

http://asia.cnet.com/crave/2010/10/07/a-kinect-skeptic-s-first-impressions-on-ubisoft-s-offerings/

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ru0KpAUL3A&feature=player_embedded

http://www.theaveragegamer.com/2010/08/21/kinect-xbox-360-first-impressions/

http://mytakeradio.com/2010/10/1st-impression-kinect/

 

http://www.gameplaybook.com/news/kinect-sports-volleyball-impressions-xbox-360/

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ROFL

sry, but "complete console for both casual and hardcore gamers. its a reality." is funny with Kinect not even released yet.