I actually dated a girl for a while that lived one town over and she introduced me to a lot of her guy friends.  One night she wouldn't answer her phone and I knew she was home so I drove to her house at midnight.  Her house was full of guys and no girls.  That pretty much killed it for me. 

Early in my VGChartz days, I made a post (that I'm not especially proud of) that said that I'm basically a predator.  I'm actually drawn to either REALLY wild girls that will get me killed or really innocent girls that have really low self esteem. 

-Oh and there was this other time where a girl that I was really into invited me to her house after I got off from work (I was working 3pm ro 3am).  She kept insisting that I came over even though I told her it was really late but the promise of sex kept me going.  I got to her house and there was another guy already in the house!  He introduced himself, we sat there for about 5 minutes and then I got the hell out of there!  I think she wanted a threesome but not the cool two girls one guy threesome.  I don't play that shit!

-And finally, I know me.  If I'm friends with a girl, it's because I messed up somewhere.  I don't really have any close friends now.  I always preferred talking to girls.  But the reason I talked to girls in the first place was because I wanted to get in their pants.  Sometimes it didn't work but they'd still like talking to me.  It was my mission to undermine their relationships, tell them how bad their boyfriends were, and try to get them naked.  We were friends but deep down inside, I know I'd jump on any chance to bone any of them.  Knowing me, I can't help but think other guys are the same.  Even in my current relationship where all I do is go to work, come home, and go out with my girlfriend, she's always telling me what "the guy on my job said....." and it always leads to some sort of argument or they say something that makes her think I'm cheating (which I no longer have any desire to do).

So, no.  I wouldn't touch her.

I used to operate under much the same MO. And, like you, I was damned good at my job. I often slid into a "friendship" with a girl because I was charming, moderately good-looking, quirky, and wasn't intimidating at all. After awhile, we'd become close, she'd break up with whoever she was seeing, and we'd sleep together. It's not something I'm particularly proud of but it happens. I'm living proof but at least I had the decency to not sleep with anyone who was in a relationship at the time, EVER. But I wasn't against undermining said relationship. Most guys don't even have my fucked up "ethics", though. They'll bang her, relationship or not.

Like I said earlier, it really depends on the girl. If you trust her and she has male friends for the "right" reasons, I say go for it. If she's an attention whore, she'll probably sleep with another guy. If she drinks or is inclined to partying, she WILL sleep with one of them.

I hope everyone who posts in this thread pays very special attention to this paragraph in the bold, especially d21lewis breaking the boyfriend in whichever girl's mind.

OT: If a girl has many guy friends, but not a lot of girl friends, she is either a whore or REALLY needs attention. She probably pits all these suitors against each other and teases them just enough to keep them around, but never progresses into anything substantial. In both cases, you want to avoid this type of girl at all costs.

Her eyes will forever wander.

If it is balanced and she has around the same amount as girl friends as guy friends, I'd say go for it. Maybe she just knows many people. If that is the case, step up and be the only guy who isn't insecure about himself and go get her (if you want her).

I have a lot of female friends, and believe me I'd fuck 'em all if the situation came up. So umm....I won't trust those guys.

If she has a lot of guy friends, as long as you dont mind her hanging out and bumping into guys shes fucked already on a regular basis, you should be ok. For me thats too much.

Your false dichotomy is, not surprisingly, dead wrong. The most likely explanation for more male than female friends is that their hobbies are ones that tend to be dominated by men. What is surprising here is that so many people in this very thread would probably kill to get a girlfriend who is into video games, but ironically would label them as either a whore of one kind or another. Without exception every girl I know into video games has more male friends than not, including the one I am now engaged to.

PS. No offense to anyone in this thread, but any guy who uses words like "slut" or "whore" to a girls face is just dumb. You want sex yeah? With a vagina having creature of the same species? Well, unless that girl puts out then you are stuck in line at the spank bank. The more often you insult and demean a woman for expressing, or enjoying her sexuality the more likely she is to repress it, especially around you. Just something to think about.

Well said, sir. There are far too many people in this thread who think they know everything about women but come off as 16 year old dipshits, which makes me question whether they've ever even had sex. It's easy to label a girl a slut or whore but are the guys around you really any different? What do you get out of calling someone such a thing, having never even met the person?

Having a bunch of guy friends isn't necessarily a bad thing. It COULD be a bad thing but, like almost all other things, it depends on the girl. My current girlfriend has tons of guy friends and has even slept with a few of them in the past but she's totally trustworthy so I don't fret over it. It's not as if my history is a sparkling example of compassionate humanity so I can't really say shit about it. On the other hand, one of my exes had loads of guy friends and while she was trustworthy in the relationship, she had those friends for all the wrong reasons: she was an attention monger who needed to feel adored by everyone. After awhile, I had enough and bailed out of the relationship.

For the hundredth time, can you trust the girl? That's all that matters.

Thankfully I never had the case of a girl I was interested in and a guy who undermined a relationship I was building. I am an old school kind of guy, before I got my fiancé  there were girls I was interested but when I found out they were already with a bf, I chose to not go further. I would only undermine if I see that the bf is a total a** that will make her life miserable and chose to help her but with no interest to have a night with her, if the guy was a good person I would stay away as much as possible for respect. Many girls say I'm too much of a gentleman.

However a college friend of mine was in a relationship with a nice girl and another guy undermined his relationship and stole his girl. I became my friend's drinking buddy and shoulder to cry for the weekend. I believe it was 36 beers in total from Friday to Monday (we didn't have enough money for stronger drinks to last longer). Three months later she went to our college to see him and she was really sorry. The other guy turned out to be a predator and slept with other girl while he was with her. I could see she was really sorry and ashamed for messing up everything. My friend found place in his heart to forgive her but told her that he will never get near her again in his life. Not even at parties, if she was invited he wouldn't go no matter the number of people there... The girl wanted me to help to at least make them be friends again, but I told her that I cannot do it because he was not willing. I understood my friend's feelings all too well.

I was a guy who didn't have a girlfriend before (with my first love being a one sided failure because her bf was way better than me) and there was this girl that got my attention. She was a neighbor of a friend of mine who was a little on the other side (got more straight a few years later). She was amazingly cute and like on the topic, she has a lot of guy friends, many of which were hitting on her while I was watching. She didn't show interest in any of the guys I saw so at a friends's party I invited her to dance (she was always sitting and rejecting other guys) and I got surprised she accepted to dance with me many pieces. Later on either I was hanging out in her house or she in mine. I was taking her advancements towards me as a good sign, specially when she was talking of the guys she was dumping and playing a little to make them give up. We dated a few times and while she looked very interested she wanted things to go slow. I though it was great (the saying, easy comes, easy goes), and my love for her was getting stronger and stronger.

One day I went to hang out with my friend and we were playing basketball with other guys at the block. After the match I wanted to give her a surprise because she didn't know I was there. So I went to her room window and I herd some noises. I saw a small opening in the curtains and took a peek..... I saw her having sex with another guy that she met a few days before. a month and a half after I met her. That scene remained in my head for days. I left stealthy to my friend's house and told him what I saw. Together we found out t was a play, a bet she made concerning me. She was not interested at all but to win her bet and I was in the middle. her close female friends knew all along and were making fun of me, even the guys she was sleeping with knew... that was very humiliating.... I had my revenge but that's another story.

That experience made me realize to be skeptical at all times. A date is worth to try, but never take things for granted. There were girls that were very interesting but with the first date I got disappointed and  saved myself from another bas experience

Darn! The best part aswell.

Quite a few of my females companions have been saying am too nice for my own good, but thats who we are being a gentleman is a lifestyle so I think even if I do ever get cheated on I think I will carry on being the same person and make her regret the actions she has taken.

A female friend of mine told me a long time ago that gentlemen have it hard these days. We place a lot of trust. She wasn't lying

In many times you don't have to do anything to make her regret what she has done. Just let time do its thing is enough. I have witness it.

In my case I couldn't wait. I was too hurt to let time work. I had to take action... I didn't do anything physical, all I did was something to move her heart and sweep her off her feet (it was my best work, actually. Romance as a weapon). Then when things were at the peak, I dropped the bomb, letting her know what it could have been if she weren't playing with me.

Money spent on revenge : $12