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SONY expects PS3 to BEAT its 15 Million Fiscal Year Projections!!!

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Serious_frusting said:
Reasonable said:
drkohler said:
Euphoria14 said:

The Move requires the Eye, although not the Nav. I doubt they made 500k Navigators. I would guess 250k Nav, 500k Eye and 750k Move. Eye numbers only higher than Nav because it is bundled. Remember that 500k people MINIMUM have the PSEye thanks to EyePet, plus what about Eye of Judgement?

Actually Eye numbers could be lower since I don't think the bundle includes a game in Europe right?

The Starter packs do not contain a game.

The Mediamarkts (5000lb Gorilla in Switzerland) here got an inital shipment of around 120 Starter packs, a dozen dildos and 6 Navs each. Everything sold out within around two weeks. The second shipments were around 24 Starter packs, 20 dildos and 3-4 Navs. All sold out except for the starter packs. Smaller shops seem to sell slower, but generally I'd say a sell-through of >85% of the first two shipments is a good guess. If that 1.5 mil is correct, and Switzerland is not an exception in consumer behaviour, I'd guess around 500'000-600'000 move units sold in Europe to date.


Interesting ratios.  It would be useful to know if there is any kind of core Move customer and what configuration they use.

I had an Eye myself so bought 2 Move wands and 1 navi controller.


I have 2 wands 1 eye

In a naughty way that sounds hilarious!



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Serious_frusting said:
Reasonable said:


Interesting ratios.  It would be useful to know if there is any kind of core Move customer and what configuration they use.

I had an Eye myself so bought 2 Move wands and 1 navi controller.


I have 2 wands 1 eye

I probably saw a dozen people in all (all ages and gender) buying starter packs in the first two weeks. What was interesting, though, was the fact that NONE of those people bought a game with it. I did see a few people asking for software recently. So there could be a sizable percentage of people who only have the starter pack (again, comes without a game) at this time which would heavily skew vgchartz statistics.



Euphoria14 said:

Actually I think I may have understood him wrong. I don't think he believes it to be a 1:1:1 ratio because that would just be stupid on SONY's part since many will buy a 2nd Move.

Well it's definitely not being shipped at a 1:1:1 even ratio since the most common multi purchase will naturally be the Move controller itself.

I will say from personal observations that the basic controller seems to be the hardest component to find.I've yet to see one at retail personally. I see a lot of nav-con controllers and I've seen a couple Sports Champions bundles, but no separate Move controllers.

At least in San Francisco, retailers are definitely not flooding the shelves with Move peripherals. They seem to be ordered in numbers on par with DS3 and PSEye peripherals but they just don't stay in stock as long.



Darth Tigris said:

Oh God, seriously already????!!!!

When seeing all of the components that make up the Move, I had a VERY bad feeling that we were going to see Sony reporting combined figures that honestly tell us NOTHING but make it seem as if the Move has a larger install base than it actually has.  And here. we.  are.

And now with no NPD public numbers, as someone mentioned already they start touting EU numbers that can't be substantiated.

Just when I started having more respect for the resurgence of the PS3, suddenly its 2006 again ...

Jesus Christ.

This is SCEE. NOT SCEA

Read the fucking thread.

Why the hell would Sony EUROPE be talking about AMERICA!?

Use your head. Stop trying to troll.



                            

Carl2291 said:
Darth Tigris said:

Oh God, seriously already????!!!!

When seeing all of the components that make up the Move, I had a VERY bad feeling that we were going to see Sony reporting combined figures that honestly tell us NOTHING but make it seem as if the Move has a larger install base than it actually has.  And here. we.  are.

And now with no NPD public numbers, as someone mentioned already they start touting EU numbers that can't be substantiated.

Just when I started having more respect for the resurgence of the PS3, suddenly its 2006 again ...

Jesus Christ.

This is SCEE. NOT SCEA

Read the fucking thread.

Why the hell would Sony EUROPE be talking about AMERICA!?

Use your head. Stop trying to troll.


I was starting to have more respect too..but some people can't get over 2006 still it seems :P



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M.U.G.E.N said:
Carl2291 said:
Darth Tigris said:

Oh God, seriously already????!!!!

When seeing all of the components that make up the Move, I had a VERY bad feeling that we were going to see Sony reporting combined figures that honestly tell us NOTHING but make it seem as if the Move has a larger install base than it actually has.  And here. we.  are.

And now with no NPD public numbers, as someone mentioned already they start touting EU numbers that can't be substantiated.

Just when I started having more respect for the resurgence of the PS3, suddenly its 2006 again ...

Jesus Christ.

This is SCEE. NOT SCEA

Read the fucking thread.

Why the hell would Sony EUROPE be talking about AMERICA!?

Use your head. Stop trying to troll.


I was starting to have more respect too..but some people can't get over 2006 still it seems :P


What happend in 2006? Sorry i just joined these forums 1 year ago



SpartenOmega117 said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
Carl2291 said:
Darth Tigris said:

Oh God, seriously already????!!!!

When seeing all of the components that make up the Move, I had a VERY bad feeling that we were going to see Sony reporting combined figures that honestly tell us NOTHING but make it seem as if the Move has a larger install base than it actually has.  And here. we.  are.

And now with no NPD public numbers, as someone mentioned already they start touting EU numbers that can't be substantiated.

Just when I started having more respect for the resurgence of the PS3, suddenly its 2006 again ...

Jesus Christ.

This is SCEE. NOT SCEA

Read the fucking thread.

Why the hell would Sony EUROPE be talking about AMERICA!?

Use your head. Stop trying to troll.


I was starting to have more respect too..but some people can't get over 2006 still it seems :P


What happend in 2006? Sorry i just joined these forums 1 year ago


I have no clue. SONY priced PS3 at $599.99 and they thought people would work 2 jobs just to get one.

 

Some people just can't let go of the past, even when people who said these things no longer work with the company. It is like people sit around, wait for the perfect opportunity and scream out:

"Yeah, remember when Kuturagi said this? Remember when he said that?!"

Meanwhile they forget that these people haven't been there for years and it is now headed by different people.

 

Anyone who brings up 4 years ago gets an automatic "Oh jeez" followed by a facepalm by me.



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Demotruk said:
Euphoria14 said:
Demotruk said:

There's no way vgchartz is significantly under tracking Move in Europe, we'd see Sports Champions et all in the PAL charts (chart-track etc.) if they were. The 1.5 million figure is hugely inflated somehow, probably a combination of talking "shipped", and counting each component unit (Move controller, navigation controller, PSEye).


Sports Champions isn't bundled in Europe. That bundle comes with only a demo disc.


I know, but surely people buy *something* with Move. Unless you're suggesting they're buying it in large numbers just for the demo disc.

 

I guess old owners of RE5 and Eyepet might pick it up without a game, but I'm skeptical that's happening in large amounts.

That does actually appear to be the case.  In Spain they've been tracking the Move Starter Pack alongside other software, and last week the Starter Pack came in 2nd overall while Sports Champions was way down at 10th.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=23839040&postcount=48



SpartenOmega117 said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
Carl2291 said:
Darth Tigris said:

Oh God, seriously already????!!!!

When seeing all of the components that make up the Move, I had a VERY bad feeling that we were going to see Sony reporting combined figures that honestly tell us NOTHING but make it seem as if the Move has a larger install base than it actually has.  And here. we.  are.

And now with no NPD public numbers, as someone mentioned already they start touting EU numbers that can't be substantiated.

Just when I started having more respect for the resurgence of the PS3, suddenly its 2006 again ...

Jesus Christ.

This is SCEE. NOT SCEA

Read the fucking thread.

Why the hell would Sony EUROPE be talking about AMERICA!?

Use your head. Stop trying to troll.


I was starting to have more respect too..but some people can't get over 2006 still it seems :P


What happend in 2006? Sorry i just joined these forums 1 year ago

I'll tell you

SONY DID make a few arrogant statements

but most of the press

took Kutaragi's statements and literally TWISTED them into something he never meant at all!!!!!



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makingmusic476 said:
That does actually appear to be the case.  In Spain they've been tracking the Move Starter Pack alongside other software, and last week the Starter Pack came in 2nd overall while Sports Champions was way down at 10th.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=23839040&postcount=48

It seems many here refuse to believe that the Move is actually selling very well.

It was essentially penciled in as a failure right off the bat since SONY wasn't going to spend hundred of millions of dollars on advertisement and instead opted for word of mouth to carry it along.

 

The fact that it is selling good on word of mouth alone is what actually what makes these numbers so impressive.



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