This is just ridiculous!! Really!!! WTH!!!! 

Screw it im sellin my PS3!!

What makes you say that? Other than DK Returns there's no other major games releasing that week. You think GT5 wouldn't be included in those deals? Need I remind you of last Black Friday?

http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/5999/sony-shows-black-friday-special-ps3-bundles/

http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/6015/black-friday-ps3-bundles-everything-is-sold-out-finalized/

It doesn't matter about what else is releasing.  There are so many other deals accross the board that people are less likely to buy GT5 launch week if it launched that week than other weeks.  When people have a limited amount to spend on deals for every category (not just video games) and then a game gets added to that, some people are obviously going to hold out for a later time.

Also, those were PS3 Slim with $100 price cut boosted results, not standard PS3 black friday results.

This is a disaster for Sony and it's pretty shocking.  They have nothing to counter the big Microsoft and Nintendo releases in November and they're likely going to get pummeled because of it.  I'm going to put my conspiracy theory out there that Sony is the reason that NPD made the changes to what they give out to the public. 

Think about it, who has the most to gain by the changes NPD had made?  Microsoft which is riding high from Reach and soon from Kinect?  Nintendo who'll see their games chart lower when multiplat releases are combined?  Sony who can hide behind percentages and now don't have to worry about November?

Mark my words, November is going to be one of the most lopsided months we will see this generation.

First of all, PS3 never saw a 1 million sales week. It's strongest week was last year at 989k, and without the assistance of the PS3 Slim effect, it won't ever get another 1 million sales week. It could break 800k in the week before christmas, but with Kinect having less competition during its release, it may just steal the show.

This thread is a good reference of sales:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=116786&page=1&str=935723633#

and it shows PS3 sales are more similar to X-Box 360 2009 holiday sales. However without any big exclusive title between Move and GT5, PS3 Holiday sales may just be, like you said it, poo.

I think the people at Sony really messed up this fall. Except for the PS Move, the PS3 has no big name exclucive games until December 2009! I mean it's spring had a better lineup, and someone at Sony should have done what MS did with GoW3, and they should have delayed their own GoW3 to fall 2009.

I think PS3 yearly sales will be sub 12 million this year, and the 360 lead will grow exceptionally thanks to Fable and Kinect comming out soon. Also with some CoD console bundles, and early map packs, the 360 is likely now to get a heavy boost in November sales.

As for December, the PS3 will probably at best only match 360 sales. The 360 will have had soo much more to offer this fall, CoD: BO exclusive console bundles, and early map packs, Fable 3, Kinect, Halo, and ressonance slim effects. More people buy 360's now then PS3's and this will pretty surely remain the situation for 2010. With Kinect advertizing, and a very strong fall, it's unlikely to see dominance switch from 360 to PS3 just because of one game. It will be a great game, but generally Novemeber is a stronger window for a game to sell, and Kinect has that. Sony lost the battle this fall, and it was a battle they desperatly needed.

The PS3 had a chance at overtaking 360 overall sales, but with such a lackluster fall lineup (1 game in December and Move), and sales being over the hill (past the peak year in sales), PS3 will unlikely never catch up to MS.

I'm just interested to see how well PS3 will sell this fall. Will the difference from 360-PS3 be greater then the PS3-360 difference last fall? What will PS3 yearly sales end up at, 11 or 12 million?

I think this fall, the more interesting battle is Wii versus 360. They seem to be stronger compeditors saleswise, and gamewise this fall. I'm betting 360 sales will be closer to Wii then PS3.

i hate sony!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they fucked up so much, i want to kill kaz!!!!!!!!!!!!! grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! looks like im going to have to buy a new console.

Awwww, Carl thinks that GT5 actually exists and will be released one day. How cute!

I wouldn't go discounting PS3 just yet. Now if GT5 were to be delayed to 2011 I would say that they have no hope but as of last month they were still confident in their 15 million projection and that the first half of the fiscal year had even come in above their own estimates. I'd wait until we have Q3 (Q2 fiscal year) results before writing them off. Speaking of which, anyone know when the companies are going to report their financials?

Don't see PS3 doing well this fall, they really messed up. To the point where 3rd place is essentially garenteed.

Sony is in trouble

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDk-4cc_WkU

I think Sony owes PS3 fans more good news.