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Wii 'could be in trouble' post-Christmas - Iwata

Wii will continue to be s... 69 17.97%
 
It's true Wii has peaked 193 50.26%
 
Let's hope not 25 6.51%
 
Wii will be on the market for years to come 33 8.59%
 
We need Super Wii 64 16.67%
 
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KillerMan said:
Nintendogamer said:
KillerMan said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Kasz216 said:
Seece said:

They don't really need to worry, 3DS will be out next year and I imagin Wii 2 or whatever's next is round the corner.

Can't see Wii having a lifespan similar to PS2 at this stage though ..


Isn't it outselling the PS2 at this point in it's lifecycle?

It's kinda odd to suggest it won't have as good a lifecycle as something it's outselling.


Gaming community mentality gets a lot of things twisted.


Wii will not outsell PS2.

a) It doesn't have huge third party support like PS2 so it will not have as long lifespan as PS2 had. Nintendo has already 3DS to support and with Wii 2 they don't have manpower to support three platforms.

b) Nintendo doesn't have as good distribution network as Sony because they are only gaming company so Wii will not sell as much as PS2 in developing markets.

DS will outsell PS2 and I think Wii has a shot at PS1.


DS will absolutely outsell PS2 as it is just ten million behind it if we go by shipped numbers. Wii will also outsell PS1. it's pretty certain.

No one would have thougth this for one minute back in 2005.



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Nintendogamer said:
KillerMan said:
Nintendogamer said:
KillerMan said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Kasz216 said:
Seece said:

They don't really need to worry, 3DS will be out next year and I imagin Wii 2 or whatever's next is round the corner.

Can't see Wii having a lifespan similar to PS2 at this stage though ..


Isn't it outselling the PS2 at this point in it's lifecycle?

It's kinda odd to suggest it won't have as good a lifecycle as something it's outselling.


Gaming community mentality gets a lot of things twisted.


Wii will not outsell PS2.

a) It doesn't have huge third party support like PS2 so it will not have as long lifespan as PS2 had. Nintendo has already 3DS to support and with Wii 2 they don't have manpower to support three platforms.

b) Nintendo doesn't have as good distribution network as Sony because they are only gaming company so Wii will not sell as much as PS2 in developing markets.

DS will outsell PS2 and I think Wii has a shot at PS1.


DS will absolutely outsell PS2 as it is just ten million behind it if we go by shipped numbers. Wii will also outsell PS1. it's pretty certain.

No one would have thougth this for one minute back in 2005.

Deserves every bit of it, IMO.



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huaxiong90 said:
darkknightkryta said:

Um just throwing this out there, but why is everyone saying NIntendo will push the Wii past it's 5 year cycle that Nintendo has been using?  I mean I don't think they'll stop production soon, but a new console is coming to replace it sooner rather than later.  And why do I say this?  Cause NIntendo is replacing the bestest selling game machine of all time that's still selling better than every other gaming machine combined, in a few months.

That's not a word.

(Cannot resist my inner "Grammar Nazi")

Tell that to Timon and Pumba :P



Dampfi said:

This year would have been perfect tp introduce a Platinum Series to re release hits like SMG1, Twilight Princess, Mario Party 8 etc.  I still hope they will do so anytime soon.


I would prefer it if they released the 'Everybody's Selection' or whatever it is called range of games over here.




LordTheNightKnight said:
Aiddon said:

considering the fact that Wii reached market saturation quite some time ago I very doubt that Nintendo is going to be in dire straits any time soon. Plus the 3DS will probably pick up the slack in a big way.


Market saturation is NOT selling a lot of systems.

That terms means something like 50% of all households or more. NO SINGLE GAME SYSTEM has done that.


That is not what market saturation means.

 

1. Point at which a market is no longer generating new demand for a firm's products, due to competition, decreased need, obsolescence, or some other factor.

2. Measure of the extent of a product's sales volume relative to the number of total potential (emphasis mine) customers, expressed as a percentage. Formula: Sales volume of a product x 100 ÷ Number of total potential customers.



Read more: http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/market-saturation.html#ixzz033ajOWgp


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KillerMan said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Kasz216 said:
Seece said:

They don't really need to worry, 3DS will be out next year and I imagin Wii 2 or whatever's next is round the corner.

Can't see Wii having a lifespan similar to PS2 at this stage though ..


Isn't it outselling the PS2 at this point in it's lifecycle?

It's kinda odd to suggest it won't have as good a lifecycle as something it's outselling.


Gaming community mentality gets a lot of things twisted.


Wii will not outsell PS2.

a) It doesn't have huge third party support like PS2 so it will not have as long lifespan as PS2 had. Nintendo has already 3DS to support and with Wii 2 they don't have manpower to support three platforms.

b) Nintendo doesn't have as good distribution network as Sony because they are only gaming company so Wii will not sell as much as PS2 in developing markets.

And can just look at the sales curve of both consoles.

The Wii has peaked sooner than the ps2, and is showing a much sharper drop-off far sooner than anything the ps2 had shown.

The ps2 was still consistantly topping 150k a week even in 2007:

First week of October, 2007 - http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly.php?date=39726&reg=World&date=39362&console=&maker=

And still topping 100k a week throughout 2008:

First week of October, 2008 - http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly.php?date=39635&reg=World&date=39726&console=&maker=

That's between it's 7th and 8th years on the market.  Meanwhile the Wii is already selling under 150k regularly as of its fourth year on the market.  It sold 138k this past week (the first week of October), for example.  It doesn't have the software support to maintain such sales for several more years, which is what would be necessary to eclipse the ps2.  Nintendo alone is not enough, even if they can come up with a couple more innovations as popular as Wii Fit to prop the Wii up over the next few years.

It's quite obvious that Wii will neither outsell the ps2 at this point, nor be supported by either retailers or third parties much past the release of Wii 2.



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The Wii has peaked imo. They'll still be successful in 2011 when it comes to software. The 3DS will dominate in 2011 and will sell like crazy. I think Nintendo will focus less on the Wii and more on the 3DS in 2011.



                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   

makingmusic476 said:
KillerMan said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Kasz216 said:
Seece said:

They don't really need to worry, 3DS will be out next year and I imagin Wii 2 or whatever's next is round the corner.

Can't see Wii having a lifespan similar to PS2 at this stage though ..


Isn't it outselling the PS2 at this point in it's lifecycle?

It's kinda odd to suggest it won't have as good a lifecycle as something it's outselling.


Gaming community mentality gets a lot of things twisted.


Wii will not outsell PS2.

a) It doesn't have huge third party support like PS2 so it will not have as long lifespan as PS2 had. Nintendo has already 3DS to support and with Wii 2 they don't have manpower to support three platforms.

b) Nintendo doesn't have as good distribution network as Sony because they are only gaming company so Wii will not sell as much as PS2 in developing markets.

And can just look at the sales curve of both consoles.

The Wii has peaked sooner than the ps2, and is showing a much sharper drop-off far sooner than anything the ps2 had shown.

The ps2 was still consistantly topping 150k a week even in 2007:

First week of October, 2007 - http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly.php?date=39726&reg=World&date=39362&console=&maker=

And still topping 100k a week throughout 2008:

First week of October, 2008 - http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly.php?date=39635&reg=World&date=39726&console=&maker=

That's between it's 7th and 8th years on the market.  Meanwhile the Wii is already selling under 150k regularly as of its fourth year on the market.  It sold 138k this past week (the first week of October), for example.  It doesn't have the software support to maintain such sales for several more years, which is what would be necessary to eclipse the ps2.  Nintendo alone is not enough, even if they can come up with a couple more innovations as popular as Wii Fit to prop the Wii up over the next few years.

It's quite obvious that Wii will neither outsell the ps2 at this point, nor be supported by either retailers or third parties much past the release of Wii 2.

And we have to remember that because developing markets are hard to track vgchartz has been undertracking PS2 for long time. For example during last quarter Sony shipped more PS2s than MS shipped X360s and yet vgchartz has X360 pulling over 100k sales weekly and PS2 selling sub 40k weekly.



Aiddon said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Aiddon said:

considering the fact that Wii reached market saturation quite some time ago I very doubt that Nintendo is going to be in dire straits any time soon. Plus the 3DS will probably pick up the slack in a big way.


Market saturation is NOT selling a lot of systems.

That terms means something like 50% of all households or more. NO SINGLE GAME SYSTEM has done that.

It's called being euphemistic, I am well aware of what the term actually means. My point is that it appears that everyone who wants a Wii already has one so of course sales are going to dip especially since it sold at a break-neck pace unlike its closest competitors who still aren't within spitting distance of Nintendo when it comes to units sold. Even if the Wii has reached its saturation point then it hardly matters to Nintendo as they'll have the 3DS post-holiday anyway.


Sorry. I read so many posts insisting that actually happened (usually to try to justify why the system will magically stop selling), I assumed it was one of those.



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