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"And the Wii was sold at 25000 Yen. It's not their fault if the dollar dropped that much in the last 4 years."

Something I also maintain.



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Linkasf said:

Arrogance... Look at E3 2005 and 2006. THAT is arogance on Sony's part. Nintendo so far have not said " our console will sell even if there are no games!"

What arrogance?

And the main difference there is that Nintendo might actually reach their projections, because they always do.

On the other side, that was just rubbish on Sony's part. they haven't met their initial projections. Not even close.



saicho said:
Carl2291 said:

Kinda.

Although they still have some way to go yet until they match the Sony arrogance of a few years back

 

The difference between 3DS/PS3 pricing though... Is that Sony were losing $200 per PS3 when it launched at $600. So they were actually doing consumers a favor despite the mahoosive price tag.

Nintendo will probably be making a LOT of money on each 3DS sold for $250 (or maybe even more...) Not doing consumers a favor at all really, just milking them like crazy.

At least right now,this would be purely speculation on your part.

Besides, even if it is true, isn't that what Sony did with PSP Go? It is actually cheaper than PSP Go's launch price when it's released a year and half later. You are certainly right that they still have a long way to go in order to catch Sony on arrogance.

True. Nothing but guesswork and just going by Japan prices but... Yaknow. Could be $200, or less.

As for PSP Go. Totally different situation. They didn't price it according to fan hype after an already planned price point. They put it at that price because they didn't expect it to sell well, and it was just a test for a new market.

3DS is the follow up to what will be the best selling videogames system... Ever. It's got massive hype behind it already, everybody already wants one. PSP Go... Not so much.

Although I do agree it was way overpriced.



                            

Its actually their humility which gives them the ability to release product so compelling they can charge more than industry standard margins for it. The lack of competition doesn't hurt either, as with home consoles they have actually got a couple of competitors whom could actually beat them.



Tease.

"The value of an object is worth to what its purchaser will pay." Publilius Syrus

This is essentially the law of the economic world.

It is really quite simple, there are many people who felt the Wii was worth 900 dollars for months and months from launch, and up to 650 dollars even two years after launch. This could be seen by the bids on Ebay. The Wii was worth considerably more than what Nintendo was selling it for, only Nintendo and their shareholders were not reaping the rewards; it was re-sellers on ebay. Considering that, and the fact that the 3DS seems likely to be be valued at $400-500 at least, by purchasers from resellers, I see no reason why Nintendo; a public company who is accountable to its shareholders, shouldn't raise the price of the product. It will sell 4 million units this fiscal year at the supposed $250 price (probably 250, keep in mind that DSi XL in Japan cost 20,000 yen until it price dropped to 18,000, and it costs $169 here), but it wouldn't sell any higher number of units at $200, or $100, or $50; it would probably still sell 4 million units if it were priced at $400 USD. It has a unique feature that no other product on the market has - projected 3D.

 

If Nintendo made a product that they can sell at a profit, than it is a successful product. If they need to sell it at a price lower than its manufacturing cost, then they have done something wrong.



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loool... well he's honest at least :P



What Jumpin said above is what I came to say.

There is also simple inflation.... Nintendo stuck with a $200 launch from NES to GC for you Americans, in value terms their consoles had been getting cheaper up to that point, and the Wii only brought it somewhat back in line.



Mr.Metralha said:
Viper1 said:

Can't be locked because it will read games directly from the SD card and you can buy extra cards with a max capacity of 32 GB.

If they enable SDXC, and I'm sure they will since it's just a firmware update and they updated the Wii from SD to SDHC that way, capacity has a theoretical maximum of 2 TB's.

I have the notion that the bigger the size of the card, the harder the console can read it.

I mean, for a roughly ~500 mhz processor you wanna have 2 TB of external memory working on the thing?

Even 500 GBs would be insane I think...

 

CPU clock rate has no bearing on the ability to read a specific size flash RAM capacity.    It's like saying you must be 8' tall to swin in water 20,000 feet deep.  Anybody that can swim, regardless of size, can swim in it.



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I'd have to say no.

Nintendo was arrogant like Sony when they released the Super Nintendo and Nintendo 64. GameCube humbled them a bit and I think they have grown increasingly humble over the years. Even at the beginning of the Wii Nintendo said they could support and sell the hardware without the help of any third parties (A very bold and arrogant statement) but with the 3DS Nintendo is trumpeting third parties and with the Wii today Nintendo is constantly trying to boost 3rd party support.

As others said the PSP launched at 250$ and many believe the 3DS will also launch at that price. So its not really arrogant of Nintendo. Even if it launched at 300$ thats not to drastic, sure if the console went for 400$ then that would be arrogant but even 300$ is a reasonable price for such advanced technology.

Plus, Nintendo has always said they will not sell hardware at a loss. Is that arrogance? No its just smart buisness and if the 3DS costs 200-250$ to manufacture then Nintendo is being very reasonable to ship it at 250-300$. Its just a stupid buisness decision to launch hardware at a loss.



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As long as Nintendo understands the importance of a solid game line-up I think they'll be fine.

What I'm worried about is them doing something crazy with their next home console...