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| Leunam said: The response alert is glitchy again. |
That was my fault, as i stated before. I dumped about 5 ghost posts into this thread early on, breaking it entirely
Anyhoo, i think we tend to overthink GameCube's loss. Especially if we compare it to Xbox, which had a lot of the features GameCube failed to get (up to and including superior third party support), and the Xbox barely managed to hedge the machine out, even though if you looked at it from an industry perspective, the attitude was PS2>Xbox>>>GameCube, but the reality being PS2>>>>>Xbox>GameCube. The similar performances of the two devices show that the PS2's crushing victory had to be attributed to the one thing Xbox and GameCube did have in common: Launch date.
Basically you can boil each generation down to one winning factor that created all the other conditions. PS2 launched at the right time with the right features, and the rest of the victory was just a matter of autopilot and making sure that the Dreamcast died. Think of Xbox, with all the same features, but support was already locked in to PS2 by the time Xbox not only appeared, and would also apparently survive
Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.
Mr Khan said:
That was my fault, as i stated before. I dumped about 5 ghost posts into this thread early on, breaking it entirely Anyhoo, i think we tend to overthink GameCube's loss. Especially if we compare it to Xbox, which had a lot of the features GameCube failed to get (up to and including superior third party support), and the Xbox barely managed to hedge the machine out, even though if you looked at it from an industry perspective, the attitude was PS2>Xbox>>>GameCube, but the reality being PS2>>>>>Xbox>GameCube. The similar performances of the two devices show that the PS2's crushing victory had to be attributed to the one thing Xbox and GameCube did have in common: Launch date. Basically you can boil each generation down to one winning factor that created all the other conditions. PS2 launched at the right time with the right features, and the rest of the victory was just a matter of autopilot and making sure that the Dreamcast died. Think of Xbox, with all the same features, but support was already locked in to PS2 by the time Xbox not only appeared, and would also apparently survive |
Perhaps better to say that the game support all comes down to one factor?
Khuutra said:
Perhaps better to say that the game support all comes down to one factor? |
But game support is an effect, not a cause. There's a net root that can bring support, which in turn can lead to success (but not necessarily as PS360 have shown against Wii).
Nintendo's ability to create markets in the 3rd generation
Nintendo's strong first-party catalogue in the 4th
Sony's creation of an easy 3rd party development platform 5th
Sony's right-launch-at-right-time in 6th
Nintendo's branching under the market now
Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.
Mr Khan said:
But game support is an effect, not a cause. There's a net root that can bring support, which in turn can lead to success (but not necessarily as PS360 have shown against Wii). Nintendo's ability to create markets in the 3rd generation |
That's what I'm saying - that games can be an effect
Making another post to remove the quote alert
Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.
He has done a complete 180 on the 3DS, hasn't he?
Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.
| Mr Khan said: He has done a complete 180 on the 3DS, hasn't he? |
Well he had less information before, which he found positive. The next round didn't sit well with him the more he thought about it.
But his analysis is just based on the information now. He also mentions hope for the Wii, in that Iwata is now making contingency plans instead of just assuming it would work out, as in what they were doing before the Wii launched. If Nintendo applies that to the 3DS (which means more games of the kind that have been shown to sell best), I think Malstrom will be pleased about that.
A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.
Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs
| axt113 said: I'm less worried about the position of the pad, and more about the lineup, I haven;t seen the games I'm looking for yet
NSMB, Advance wars, Old School Zelda and Metroid (no emo wussy Samus), Donkey Kong Country
I'm a little worried that Nintendo will continue with the poor gaming choices that have plagued the Wii, Other M, Galaxy, etc. |
LOL! How is Galaxy a poor choice? When all is said and done the two games will have sold well over 15 million. Has the entire Advance Wars series even sold 1/5 of that?
Also, Malstrom never replied to my email. I hope I didn't crush his soul with my harsh truths :(
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