i fill u on this man but a console costing more then $299.99 at retail is suicide for even the most devoted fans of the big 3 and i'm a late adopter so me ownning a PS3 right now is purley buy chance. 

This time, they'll also need a proper ad campaign

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IOt19iOED0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGVFA-PGXPo (this one is shameful)

Funny thing sony is considered an game company "for adults" an its ads are targeting stupid wannabe cool kids.

That you for posting that video :D

It really explains everything I've had in my head that I've had a hard time getting into words about Sony and gen 5 - 6.

They are still focusing on high tech / expensive things. I don't see how they have mended their ways.

What I find wrong about that video is this -

He talks about how Sony lucked out for the PSone and PS2... That's why they did so well. Yet when he gets to the current gen, he pretty much says the 360 has lucked out due to FPS becoming so large and that Nintendo lucked out by risking the new motion control idea and trying to get literally everyone playing games.

He then obviously goes on to list the problems PS3 had at launch. Pricetag, Games available, Caring more about Blu-ray than the PS3 itself. No good decisions were made with the PS3 launch. None at all. PS1 and PS2 were filled with good ideas and great decisions.

It's not just luck that Sony had. With the PS1/PS2 they actually cared and splashed money out on the developers and all that crap. They also didn't have a stupidly priced system with no games at launch of course...

It could be easily spun around... He says Sony had easy competition in a stubborn giant that had made stupid mistakes (Nintendo). Now look at it this generation. Could easily enough say Nintendo (and MS) have had relatively easy competition due to the giant that made stupid mistakes (Sony).

I guess next gen we will see if Sony have learned from the mistakes made, or if it really is just luck...

The Game Overthinker in this video is obviously ignoring a lot of the good marketing decisions that SONY made in 1993-1994 before the PS1 it the market and the add campaign to target the 19 year old demographic knowing that every one wonted to be 19 all 13 year olds wonted to be 19 and all 25 year olds wonted to be 19 again.

SONY was help a lot by the lack of strength of SEGA and the arrogance of Nintendo back in the yearly 1990s in regard to there treatment of the 3rd Party Developers/Publishers. SONY was lucky to be in the right place at the right time to tack full advantage of this with a well sorted out machine that was US$300 against SEGA SATURN'S US$400 and with a developer friendly attuned that is why Developers like SQUARE brought there big franchises like Final Fantasy.  

SEGA US not wanting 2D RPGs from Japan also helped SONY because those Developers ported there games onto the PPS1 in Japan alt of frustration and then those game turned up in the US exclusive to the PS1. 

The PS2 did not really have to rely on luck because of the reputation SONY had at that time with the consumers and Developers/Publishers and the decisions they talk to make it a DVD player is what won the war in Japan against the SEGA Dreamcast that was the PS2 main competitor at the time.     

But no won can deny that the lead up to the PS3 SONY had got arrogant and obsessed with Tech. thinking they could do no wrong they used the 2003 PSX as a base for the PS3 development thinking they enforising the PS3 as a Blu-Ray play first and a games machine second the PS1 was a system that could play CD based games and Music CDs, the PS2 was a Games system that played CD and DVD based games and DVD movies but not very well but it did the job. the PS3 also had some of the worst marketing for a games console since the Atari Jaguar. 

i think sony has learned, but you cant forget the main reason why the overpriced the ps3 in the first place, because of the high manufacturing costs... hopefully the next gen ps will have lower manufacturing costs and stil have groundbreaking tech

They shouldn't have needed to though.  I mean, it's all only because Sony's division's don't know how to play nice.

I mean, Sony owns a LOT of big studios.

There should of been no way HD-DVD could of won.

But hell, we get Sony Studio based games on Wii and 360.   Why doesn't Sony protect it's own intelectual property rather then sell off the liscensing for people making games also for their competitors?

The Sony family of divisions is like a bunch of princes fighting and hindering each other tooth and nail to be named the favorite and successor to the kingdom(company) with no real love and cooperation when it would only help each other.

I personaly don't see any mistake or arrogance. I see big risk and they overcome them imo. but, thats just me.

the system is selling fine, and it has a lot of incredible games. that momentum is picking up speed every year. It is more than just a gaming machine to me too, it is a home entertainment hub. I say that because I stream movies and animes from my pc into my ps3 in the living room etc. cost me 400 bucks full BC, and I don't regret it^^

Even today, a large proportion of blu-ray movies are played from a PS3, i've read 60 or 75%.  Sony knows that they're going to have to give it all the help they can.