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Microsoft don't count replacement units as shipped consoles in their reports.

Therefore this questions has been answered, but if you want to know how many consoles were bought from consumers due to RROD, only those count who didn't want to get their consoles repaired (3 years warranty) and bought a new one instead.

How many are they ? Maybe 2% of all consoles sold in the last 2 years and maybe around 5% in the years before that, where RROD was a much bigger issue. (Not counting the 360S since even lots of people with a working 360 unit upgraded)

Of course my guesses are not accurate, but it can't be much.



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AOvechkin08 said:

The number is somewhere over 9000!!!

What?! 9000!!!!

OT: This topic is going nowhere faster than Steven Seagal's acting career.

The RROD replacement plan doesn't add numbers to VGChartz as the units sent back to customers were refurbished. As for people buying a new one when fed up with their RROD unit, I'm sure they either sold them to a gullible friend who doesn't use it much or they're in a dump somewhere. I sold my fixed box to some people before I got my Elite and they mostly use it to watch movies so they haven't had many problems.



thx1139 said:
scottie said:
thx1139 said:

0 the numbers reported are sold to retailers. 


Not entirely true.

:P

MS doesnt report in thier financials VGChartz sold to consumers. This thread is about the claim that the sold to retailers number MS has reported includes consoles that are replacement consoles for consoles that have gone bad under warranty.  This simply isnt the case these numbers are for investors and investors care about sales and if MS was fudging the numbers to include numbers from operations.  Not to mention the amount of consoles that were under warranty and were in such bad shape that they couldnt be refurbished is miniscule because it makes no sense to send out a brand new unit when they can simply send out a refurbished or repaired unit anyway.

But anyway I do have a new number to replace my original 0.

The answer is 42.


@ bolded - "Vgchartz numbers have the 360 at 43.4 Million, but how many were replacement units due to the 42% failure rate?" - OP

 

This thread is, and has always been, about VGChartz numbers, not manufacturer shipment data



I would think less than 1%. For every RROD xbox that exists, one gets sold on ebay for $50. Some guy fixes it and resells it on ebay for $150 w/o warranty and that doesn't count as a new sale. Did people forget how well the x-clamp sold. Each one of those is a RROD that wasn't under warranty, but the owner didn't buy a new xbox but instead bought an x-clamp. If my xbox failed and wasn't in warranty, I would sure enough sell it as dead on ebay and get what money I could out of it. If someone wanted to fix it and resell it, good for him. Don't act like as soon as an xbox gets RROD that it goes straight to the landfill. Even with RROD they are still worth money.



I'd guess millions of people bought a 2nd Xbox 360 because their's broke or because they thought it would break so they upgraded to a newer Xbox 360.



 

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FreeTalkLive said:

I'd guess millions of people bought a 2nd Xbox 360 because their's broke or because they thought it would break so they upgraded to a newer Xbox 360.


That is a stupid argument, especially when there is a 3 year warranty.



yet another negative thread towards the 360... oh well. Enjoy!



Adobo said:

yet another negative thread towards the 360... oh well. Enjoy!

If I posted a negative thread in the Playstation forum I would be banned instantly, but people who post obvious flaimbait and troll threads in MS discussion dont, the mods are extemely biased.



My broken 360 scenario is a bit different but not uncommon.  I bought extended warranty from Circuit City.  When my 360 went down, I went through the extended warranty who paid me the purchase price of the 360 and I sent the broken 360 to them.  I'm not sure what happened to my broken unit after that but I bought another 360.  Double sale for MS.



Jadedx said:
FreeTalkLive said:

I'd guess millions of people bought a 2nd Xbox 360 because their's broke or because they thought it would break so they upgraded to a newer Xbox 360.


That is a stupid argument, especially when there is a 3 year warranty.

It wasn't always 3 years.

Also, people who modded the 360 lost their warranty...