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Mr.Metralha said:

The wii failure rate is 2.7% according to this survey by gamespot (but I believe it is 6% as I've already seen on more reliable sources but can't find it now)

Let's make an average and say 4.5%. It the normal failure rate ofr any electronic device.

On the other hand, if I'm going by your logic, the only person I know that had a PS3 doesn't use it anymore because it is broken.

100% failure rate for Sony, then.

I'm just showing you how stupid it is to try spin things saying the 360 has only shipped 9 Million a year because of the failure rate. (A failure rate which is unconfirmed and taken from people in the street.) The only people who know the real failure rates are Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo.

It's annoying. And wrong. And stupid. And I'm surprised you can get away with it without moderation really... I've seen people banned for similar comments. Not surprising though, when you look at who you are and what you're trolling.



                            

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trestres said:

I'd like to see The Source opinions on this, mostly on the SW forecast, which has been cut 30 million downwards for the Wii alone.
Also, Iwata's comments last night were NOTHING encouraging in regards to the Wii and its current situation. 3DS looks to be the definitive Nintendo console, I'm seriously doubting they will need a home console next gen. Much less if 3rd party relations with their home consoles keep on deteriorating at this rapid rate. Perhaps Nintendo should focus on 3DS and come up with a very advanced and revolutionary console in 2 gens time (enough time to come with a high quality, advanced and proved tech). Wii should die slowly from now on but I don't think they NEED to have a home console on the market after it dies.

Probably I'm wrong and they will release a new home console by early 2012.

leaving the console market is probably not the best stategy for nintendo.  i mean, even the game cube was a profitable business venture and so is the wii.  okay yeah, the amount of rev/profit is coming down but it still makes them money.  i'm sure their next console will as well.  i'm about as bitter as a guy can be against nintendo but i have to give one thing to them...they are good at business.

on another note: does anyone have nintendos shippng figures for last year?  useing vgchartz 2009 numbers (21.8M) with nintendo's shipping forcast (17.5M) that puts a projected decline of 19.77% YoY but those years don't quite line up (dec/dec vs march/march).  given that they have  been down around 20% YoY before the big jump from last years price cut and NSMB Wii that seems optmistic about this years holiday sales.



Mr.Metralha said:
Carl2291 said:
Mr.Metralha said:

I'm sorry I wasn't clear enough. It just wasn't counting with the Rod'd consoles, which according to a survey last year happened on average on 54.2% of the consoles ( http://consumerist.com/2009/08/xbox-360-failure-rate-is-542-percent-game-informer-finds.html )

Given that not every broken console got replaced, or owners jump ship to another console or whatever, 9 million sounds like a fair number. Either that or lower.

I did a study recently at my workplace. Asked around, and several people had a Wii. Well... 8 people. (6 of which say they bought one for there daughters).

5 of them said that there Wii's had broken down.

This obviously means that the Wii's shipped are about half of what Nintendo says they are.

The wii failure rate is 2.7% according to this survey by gamespot (but I believe it is 6% as I've already seen on more reliable sources but can't find it now)

Let's make an average and say 4.5%. It fits in the normal failure rate ofr any electronic device.

On the other hand, if I'm going by your logic, the only person I know that had a PS3 (said he used it as Br player because PS3 has no games) doesn't use it anymore because it is broken.

100% failure rate for Sony, then.

 


my wii broke twice...200% failure rate!!



Carl2291 said:
Mr.Metralha said:

The wii failure rate is 2.7% according to this survey by gamespot (but I believe it is 6% as I've already seen on more reliable sources but can't find it now)

Let's make an average and say 4.5%. It the normal failure rate ofr any electronic device.

On the other hand, if I'm going by your logic, the only person I know that had a PS3 doesn't use it anymore because it is broken.

100% failure rate for Sony, then.

I'm just showing you how stupid it is to try spin things saying the 360 has only shipped 9 Million a year because of the failure rate. (A failure rate which is unconfirmed and taken from people in the street.) The only people who know the real failure rates are Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo.

It's annoying. And wrong. And stupid. And I'm surprised you can get away with it without moderation really... I've seen people banned for similar comments. Not surprising though, when you look at who you are and what you're trolling.

I'm sorry but a survey from a reliable source is much more accurate than the opinion on the matter of "19 year old male from United Kingdom" as it says in your profile.

If you're not happy with that survey, blame whoever made it and posted it as worldwide gaming news, not me.

And as I think you can understand, broken consoles are often replaced (not the total amount for various reasons), and those replacements come included in the shipments. With a 54.2% failure rate I'd guess just a couple million of 360's are replacement units.

End of offtopic for me.



Mr.Metralha said:

I'm sorry but a survey from a reliable source is much more accurate than the opinion on the matter of "19 year old male from United Kingdom" as it says in your profile.

If you're not happy with that survey, blame whoever made it and posted it as worldwide gaming news, not me.

And as I think you can understand, broken consoles are often replaced (not the total amount for various reasons), and those replacements come included in the shipments. With a 54.2% failure rate I'd guess just a couple million of 360's are replacement units.

End of offtopic for me.

And facts about how many units Microsoft sell is more reliable than some random 22 year old Nintendo fan from Zimbabwe trying to downplay how many 360's have been sold.

If they ARE replacement units... It doesn't matter. They are still shipped consoles. Get over it. Cya. Take your trolling elsewhere.



                            

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Carl2291 said:
Mr.Metralha said:

I'm sorry I wasn't clear enough. It just wasn't counting with the Rod'd consoles, which according to a survey last year happened on average on 54.2% of the consoles ( http://consumerist.com/2009/08/xbox-360-failure-rate-is-542-percent-game-informer-finds.html )

Given that not every broken console got replaced, or owners jump ship to another console or whatever, 9 million sounds like a fair number. Either that or lower.

I did a study recently at my workplace. Asked around, and several people had a Wii. Well... 8 people. (6 of which say they bought one for there daughters).

5 of them said that there Wii's had broken down.

This obviously means that the Wii's shipped are about half of what Nintendo says they are.

lolburger!!!



Carl2291 said:
Mr.Metralha said:

I'm sorry but a survey from a reliable source is much more accurate than the opinion on the matter of "19 year old male from United Kingdom" as it says in your profile.

If you're not happy with that survey, blame whoever made it and posted it as worldwide gaming news, not me.

And as I think you can understand, broken consoles are often replaced (not the total amount for various reasons), and those replacements come included in the shipments. With a 54.2% failure rate I'd guess just a couple million of 360's are replacement units.

End of offtopic for me.

And facts about how many units Microsoft sell is more reliable than some random 22 year old Nintendo fan from Zimbabwe trying to downplay how many 360's have been sold.

If they ARE replacement units... It doesn't matter. They are still shipped consoles. Get over it. Cya. Take your trolling elsewhere.

Thing is, microsoft doesn't sell the total ammount of units they declare in shipments. As I said, many of them are replacements (everyone I know with a 360 had Rod issues and got new replacement units, or fixed ones that just RoD'd again to get replaced).

According to the failure rate it would be like half of the shipments, but that's a very huge number. Maybe just 3 to 4 millions in the maximum.

Bye, cya. It was nice to meet you.



To get back on topic and ignore the obvious annoyance...

 

Someone correct me if I'm wrong on any of these figures.

Wii is currently down YoY by about 300k.

This means they expect Wii to be down YoY by a total of about 3 Million by March 2011, yes?



                            

Anything can happen now.

Wii is down because it's uniqueness of motion controls got adopted by others, despite being late and the software available being a little lackluster I think it will cause some damage. Also the console is aging faster than others due to the weak hardware.

Commenting on the other consoles, 360 is getting good momentum cause of the slim model and reach, and PS3 past years sales weren't particularly exciting, so being up yoy is a no brainer.

Yet, the 3rd place is just glued with Sony now. No way it will pass 360 imo. Wii despite being down yoy by 3 millions, will  still be tracking above the PS2 right? That would set a new record for that fastest selling home console one more year I'd guess.



LOL Nice once carl.

Mr.Metralha, you're coming out with some ridiculous crap, MS replace or fix broken consoles, so again WRONG in thinking 10% actually go replace theres, it's nothing like that. Neither is there any kind of 10% failure rate these days.