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sirvice said:

Thats PR blablabla. He didnt mention one single reason how Ps3 is going to achieve that.

I, same as EA as it seems, prefer PS3 over 360, but how can somebody state something unreasonable without backing it up.

Oh by the way i got a sms saying 360 will end up beeing second in Japan....

I agree it dosent seem plausable atm, but after Halo Reach, what is there to get a 360 for, Gears 3 and the next Halo. the question is what will happen to the console after this year and when the gen will end. a LOT of people seem to this this gen is over, but that dosent seem logical to me.

I mean MS and Sony have both endorsed the 10 year life cycle, MS stating Kinect will boost the life cycle another 5 years. and neither consoles have been successful compared to the Wii or last gen, so it dosent seem like good business logic to launch successors to consoles that are not in high demand.

i think EA think that as this gen continues there will be an increasing demand in the PS3 because of the library; however i'm not stating one or the other, but how far is the PS3 behind in the UK??



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Well the last time EA made such a prediction was in 2008 and they were completely wrong (just like they were completely wrong about the Wii before that).  So this is good news for the 360, I'd actually be worried if they predicted the opposite.



A203D said:
sirvice said:

Thats PR blablabla. He didnt mention one single reason how Ps3 is going to achieve that.

I, same as EA as it seems, prefer PS3 over 360, but how can somebody state something unreasonable without backing it up.

Oh by the way i got a sms saying 360 will end up beeing second in Japan....

I agree it dosent seem plausable atm, but after Halo Reach, what is there to get a 360 for, Gears 3 and the next Halo. the question is what will happen to the console after this year and when the gen will end. a LOT of people seem to this this gen is over, but that dosent seem logical to me.

I mean MS and Sony have both endorsed the 10 year life cycle, MS stating Kinect will boost the life cycle another 5 years. and neither consoles have been successful compared to the Wii or last gen, so it dosent seem like good business logic to launch successors to consoles that are not in high demand.

i think EA think that as this gen continues there will be an increasing demand in the PS3 because of the library; however i'm not stating one or the other, but how far is the PS3 behind in the UK??

Because no new 360 games are going to be announced right? XCOM, Codename Kingdoms and others will start appearing more prominent in 2011.

PS3 is behind in the UK by 2.1 million units. Nov and Dec last year 360 outsold the PS3. 360 has beaten the PS3 there every week so far this year.

Edit - That means 360 has nearly outsold the PS3 in the UK for 52 solid weeks straight.



 

looks at UK numbers...



Seece said:
A203D said:
sirvice said:

Thats PR blablabla. He didnt mention one single reason how Ps3 is going to achieve that.

I, same as EA as it seems, prefer PS3 over 360, but how can somebody state something unreasonable without backing it up.

Oh by the way i got a sms saying 360 will end up beeing second in Japan....

I agree it dosent seem plausable atm, but after Halo Reach, what is there to get a 360 for, Gears 3 and the next Halo. the question is what will happen to the console after this year and when the gen will end. a LOT of people seem to this this gen is over, but that dosent seem logical to me.

I mean MS and Sony have both endorsed the 10 year life cycle, MS stating Kinect will boost the life cycle another 5 years. and neither consoles have been successful compared to the Wii or last gen, so it dosent seem like good business logic to launch successors to consoles that are not in high demand.

i think EA think that as this gen continues there will be an increasing demand in the PS3 because of the library; however i'm not stating one or the other, but how far is the PS3 behind in the UK??

Because no new 360 games are going to be announced right? XCOM, Codename Kingdoms and others will start appearing more prominent in 2011.

PS3 is behind in the UK by 2.1 million units. Nov and Dec last year 360 outsold the PS3. 360 has beaten the PS3 there every week so far this year.

Edit - That means 360 has nearly outsold the PS3 in the UK for 52 solid weeks straight.

thats a very reasonable answer, and i agree; theres no software that will be able to displace that 2.1 mil lead. the only way i could see it happening is with future price cuts and software exclusives; and thats based on the assumption that the gen will last another 5 or 6 years, like MS and Sony want.



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A203D said:
Seece said:
A203D said:
sirvice said:

Thats PR blablabla. He didnt mention one single reason how Ps3 is going to achieve that.

I, same as EA as it seems, prefer PS3 over 360, but how can somebody state something unreasonable without backing it up.

Oh by the way i got a sms saying 360 will end up beeing second in Japan....

I agree it dosent seem plausable atm, but after Halo Reach, what is there to get a 360 for, Gears 3 and the next Halo. the question is what will happen to the console after this year and when the gen will end. a LOT of people seem to this this gen is over, but that dosent seem logical to me.

I mean MS and Sony have both endorsed the 10 year life cycle, MS stating Kinect will boost the life cycle another 5 years. and neither consoles have been successful compared to the Wii or last gen, so it dosent seem like good business logic to launch successors to consoles that are not in high demand.

i think EA think that as this gen continues there will be an increasing demand in the PS3 because of the library; however i'm not stating one or the other, but how far is the PS3 behind in the UK??

Because no new 360 games are going to be announced right? XCOM, Codename Kingdoms and others will start appearing more prominent in 2011.

PS3 is behind in the UK by 2.1 million units. Nov and Dec last year 360 outsold the PS3. 360 has beaten the PS3 there every week so far this year.

Edit - That means 360 has nearly outsold the PS3 in the UK for 52 solid weeks straight.

thats a very reasonable answer, and i agree; theres no software that will be able to displace that 2.1 mil lead. the only way i could see it happening is with future price cuts and software exclusives; and thats based on the assumption that the gen will last another 5 or 6 years, like MS and Sony want.

I just think for whatever reason the PS3 is impenetrable against the 360 in the UK. I expect the gap to be at least 3 mill by end of 2011



 

iWarMachine said:
Seece said:

rofl. Never. PS3 hasn't beaten it once there in yearly sales, and barely tops 1 mill there a year.

EA have been arse licking Sony a lot lately, I don't know why. Maybe it's because Microsoft is firmly in bed with Activision .. but then it doesn't sound like Activision love Microsoft that much, just their money!


we could start to see a change if FIFA11 gets PS3 advertising and GT5 coming...but i don't think the effect will be enough to change the tide...i'm sure it'll be a close battle though.

Fifa always use PS3 to advertise.



Did Pachter join EA? The prediction is terrible.



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libellule said:
johnglen said:
libellule said:
Seece said:

rofl. Never. PS3 hasn't beaten it once there in yearly sales, and barely tops 1 mill there a year.

EA have been arse licking Sony a lot lately, I don't know why. Maybe it's because Microsoft is firmly in bed with Activision .. but then it doesn't sound like Activision love Microsoft that much, just their money!

EA is making tonne of money because of the good PS3 softwares sales

good multiplateform software sales du to the lack of hacking and the less "upgrade/remplacement hardware purchase" because of the RRoD

FIFA is a good example ....

EA has also been making tons of money because of the good xbox360 software sales for years now, so what's your point ??

 

The rest is bullshit (the blahblah blah when it comes to the 360's userbase) when the attach ratio of the 360 is by far the highest this generation, a fact that destroys all the amateurish propaganda.

well, I m sure they are making tonne of money on the 360. They are making more money on 360, let's be clearer.
But they also know those 360 people are very Gears or Halo or CoD biased (not EA games). While PS3 is lacking a "king exclusive" meaning people will tend to buy more multiplateform games (see FIFA).

At the end, multiplateform sales tend to favor PS3 compared to the "official" console user base ratio. That is why EA is loving the PS3.

And, at this question : WHY PS3 software sales on multiplateform games do not follow the userbase ratio PS3/360 ?

- there is no piracy on PS3, there are plenty on 360
- I m GUESSING the 360 userbase is "virtually" slightly inflated because of people buying more than one whatever it is because the old one was broken or because the 360 is cheaper so u can buy several for your children. I doubt many people have 2 PS3s and I doubt people bought many PS3s because their first died by RRoD ...

Also, about the attach rate you are mentionning, since this rate include the 360 exclusive or no EA games (that EA, obviously, dont give a fucking shit) AND since this attach rate is biased because it is calculated WITHOUT taking in count the fact that the 360 was released 1 year before the PS3 (from what I know), I tend to consider it is not an interesting parameter IMHO

The attach rate of the 360 IS NOT DROPPING despite the 360 selling hundreds of thousand of consoles which would be the normal thing to happen if the same people were rebuying the console. How difficult is it to understand this simple logical fact ??

 

As for the ratio between the 360 and the ps3, the ratio is never linear with the consoles userbases . The xbox 360 has a more "mature" userbase in the west since it has sold far more there so it is quite normal that the ratio will be in ps3' favour and that's mopre on a game by game basis anyway. Hell the ratio in many ps2/xbox multiplatform games was much more in favour of the xbox (percentage wise) despite the HUGE difference between the userbases of the 2 consoles.



Seece said:
A203D said:
Seece said:
A203D said:
sirvice said:

Thats PR blablabla. He didnt mention one single reason how Ps3 is going to achieve that.

I, same as EA as it seems, prefer PS3 over 360, but how can somebody state something unreasonable without backing it up.

Oh by the way i got a sms saying 360 will end up beeing second in Japan....

I agree it dosent seem plausable atm, but after Halo Reach, what is there to get a 360 for, Gears 3 and the next Halo. the question is what will happen to the console after this year and when the gen will end. a LOT of people seem to this this gen is over, but that dosent seem logical to me.

I mean MS and Sony have both endorsed the 10 year life cycle, MS stating Kinect will boost the life cycle another 5 years. and neither consoles have been successful compared to the Wii or last gen, so it dosent seem like good business logic to launch successors to consoles that are not in high demand.

i think EA think that as this gen continues there will be an increasing demand in the PS3 because of the library; however i'm not stating one or the other, but how far is the PS3 behind in the UK??

Because no new 360 games are going to be announced right? XCOM, Codename Kingdoms and others will start appearing more prominent in 2011.

PS3 is behind in the UK by 2.1 million units. Nov and Dec last year 360 outsold the PS3. 360 has beaten the PS3 there every week so far this year.

Edit - That means 360 has nearly outsold the PS3 in the UK for 52 solid weeks straight.

thats a very reasonable answer, and i agree; theres no software that will be able to displace that 2.1 mil lead. the only way i could see it happening is with future price cuts and software exclusives; and thats based on the assumption that the gen will last another 5 or 6 years, like MS and Sony want.

I just think for whatever reason the PS3 is impenetrable against the 360 in the UK. I expect the gap to be at least 3 mill by end of 2011

i think you mean the 360 is impenetrable to the PS3 in the UK, but yes next year will be interesting it could well be up to 3mil next year. either way it seems that the Wii will be down this and next year, so both consoles will likely improve YoY.