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theonewhoisme on 27 September 2010
SpartenOmega117 said:

I dont think xbox 360 will have a lead of 6 million by the end of this year. GT5 will sell consoles im sure. And sony has to be dumb not to bundle it with consoles. I think 360 will end up having a lead of maybe 4.5-5.5 million by the end of this year. And 5 million difference is not much anyways. Lets face it 360 came out a year earlier so it is natural for it to be ahead throughout this gen. The wii is a special case because well it was cheaper and was the "cool" thing to buy.

 

oh wait im going off topic. Anyways it might be possible. Blu ray sales are increasing every year. The ps3 price is decreasing every 1-2 years. Ps3 so far has the best line up for 2011. I dont think the 360 will even come close to the number of quality games ps3 will have next year. All those games might actually sell a bunch of consoles. Imagine the PS3 going $200-$250 next year too! Either way people who don't own a ps3 will be missing out. Luckily i own both 360/ps3 :)

360 doesn't have a lead of 6 million now, I was in the thread discussing how accurate VG chartz is and I became aware that a few months ago they added 1 million 360 sales because of untracking that apparently happened 4 years ago, now a few months ago would be after the last shipment sales I saw from MS and Sony which put VG chartz .3 mil behind the shipped numbers, and since the mistake happend 4 years ago that means VG chartz thinks 360 sold more then it shipped..., thats not even possible



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SpartenOmega117 on 27 September 2010
theonewhoisme said:
SpartenOmega117 said:

I dont think xbox 360 will have a lead of 6 million by the end of this year. GT5 will sell consoles im sure. And sony has to be dumb not to bundle it with consoles. I think 360 will end up having a lead of maybe 4.5-5.5 million by the end of this year. And 5 million difference is not much anyways. Lets face it 360 came out a year earlier so it is natural for it to be ahead throughout this gen. The wii is a special case because well it was cheaper and was the "cool" thing to buy.

 

oh wait im going off topic. Anyways it might be possible. Blu ray sales are increasing every year. The ps3 price is decreasing every 1-2 years. Ps3 so far has the best line up for 2011. I dont think the 360 will even come close to the number of quality games ps3 will have next year. All those games might actually sell a bunch of consoles. Imagine the PS3 going $200-$250 next year too! Either way people who don't own a ps3 will be missing out. Luckily i own both 360/ps3 :)

360 doesn't have a lead of 6 million now, I was in the thread discussing how accurate VG chartz is and I became aware that a few months ago they added 1 million 360 sales because of untracking that apparently happened 4 years ago, now a few months ago would be after the last shipment sales I saw from MS and Sony which put VG chartz .3 mil behind the shipped numbers, and since the mistake happend 4 years ago that means VG chartz thinks 360 sold more then it shipped..., thats not even possible

well vgcharts is not the most reliable source in the world but they do give good estimates. I would trust the shipment numbers given by sony and microsoft.



theonewhoisme on 27 September 2010
johnglen said:
theonewhoisme said:
Seece said:
theonewhoisme said:
Seece said:
iWarMachine said:
Seece said:

rofl. Never. PS3 hasn't beaten it once there in yearly sales, and barely tops 1 mill there a year.

EA have been arse licking Sony a lot lately, I don't know why. Maybe it's because Microsoft is firmly in bed with Activision .. but then it doesn't sound like Activision love Microsoft that much, just their money!


we could start to see a change if FIFA11 gets PS3 advertising and GT5 coming...but i don't think the effect will be enough to change the tide...i'm sure it'll be a close battle though.

Has a 2 plus million growing lead there, fifa and GT5 will do nothing to scratch that. The Slim and price cut did little last year.

How does it have a 2 million lead over there when it only has about a 3-4 million lead worldwide, I don't understand where you people are pulling these numbers from, it always looks like 360 is selling more but when we get the worldwide shipped Sony always has started to close in somewhat, it's been that way for a few years now

The front page, and seen as you're on this site if you don't like that then you might as well leave. Also our numbers are in line with Chart Track UK.

Edit - I get your confusion, you think the UK 2 mill lead takes up half of the "3 - 4 million lead", you're assuming PS3 and 360 are drawing elsewhere. PS3 has a lead in Japan of around 4 million remember, and in other European countys PS3 is in the lead.

I go by the last shipped, the sites numbers are inaccurate and it's still a good forum/news site, even if it's chartz numbers are off 


Since when do we go by shipped numbers to compare userbases ??That's something that GAF started because it favoured the ps3 and sony . That was not the case a few years ago, nobody was comparing shipped numbers from companies' fiscal reports, it's a recent trend to show how the ps3 is "closing " the gap. I would never go by shipped numbers from sony . If you don't care about VGchartz then compare the official numbers that we do get (NPD, MC ,chartrack from time to time) and that's about it.

Shipped numbers are the only accurate ones, sure it's not userbase but atleast it's accurate 



theonewhoisme on 27 September 2010
SpartenOmega117 said:
theonewhoisme said:
SpartenOmega117 said:

I dont think xbox 360 will have a lead of 6 million by the end of this year. GT5 will sell consoles im sure. And sony has to be dumb not to bundle it with consoles. I think 360 will end up having a lead of maybe 4.5-5.5 million by the end of this year. And 5 million difference is not much anyways. Lets face it 360 came out a year earlier so it is natural for it to be ahead throughout this gen. The wii is a special case because well it was cheaper and was the "cool" thing to buy.

 

oh wait im going off topic. Anyways it might be possible. Blu ray sales are increasing every year. The ps3 price is decreasing every 1-2 years. Ps3 so far has the best line up for 2011. I dont think the 360 will even come close to the number of quality games ps3 will have next year. All those games might actually sell a bunch of consoles. Imagine the PS3 going $200-$250 next year too! Either way people who don't own a ps3 will be missing out. Luckily i own both 360/ps3 :)

360 doesn't have a lead of 6 million now, I was in the thread discussing how accurate VG chartz is and I became aware that a few months ago they added 1 million 360 sales because of untracking that apparently happened 4 years ago, now a few months ago would be after the last shipment sales I saw from MS and Sony which put VG chartz .3 mil behind the shipped numbers, and since the mistake happend 4 years ago that means VG chartz thinks 360 sold more then it shipped..., thats not even possible

well vgcharts is not the most reliable source in the world but they do give good estimates. I would trust the shipment numbers given by sony and microsoft.

They seem to be good with games but hardware seems to be getting more and more inaccurate, I really don't think the gap is even 4 million right now, since they were 2 million behind on the ps3 last shipment report (which was 3 million something less then MSes shipment report) with the 360 having more sales then shipped and ps3 being under tracked it's creating a pretty significant gap much of it is inaccurate it's no wonder people are surprised every time Sony comes out with their numbers 



SpartenOmega117 on 27 September 2010
theonewhoisme said:
SpartenOmega117 said:
theonewhoisme said:
SpartenOmega117 said:

I dont think xbox 360 will have a lead of 6 million by the end of this year. GT5 will sell consoles im sure. And sony has to be dumb not to bundle it with consoles. I think 360 will end up having a lead of maybe 4.5-5.5 million by the end of this year. And 5 million difference is not much anyways. Lets face it 360 came out a year earlier so it is natural for it to be ahead throughout this gen. The wii is a special case because well it was cheaper and was the "cool" thing to buy.

 

oh wait im going off topic. Anyways it might be possible. Blu ray sales are increasing every year. The ps3 price is decreasing every 1-2 years. Ps3 so far has the best line up for 2011. I dont think the 360 will even come close to the number of quality games ps3 will have next year. All those games might actually sell a bunch of consoles. Imagine the PS3 going $200-$250 next year too! Either way people who don't own a ps3 will be missing out. Luckily i own both 360/ps3 :)

360 doesn't have a lead of 6 million now, I was in the thread discussing how accurate VG chartz is and I became aware that a few months ago they added 1 million 360 sales because of untracking that apparently happened 4 years ago, now a few months ago would be after the last shipment sales I saw from MS and Sony which put VG chartz .3 mil behind the shipped numbers, and since the mistake happend 4 years ago that means VG chartz thinks 360 sold more then it shipped..., thats not even possible

well vgcharts is not the most reliable source in the world but they do give good estimates. I would trust the shipment numbers given by sony and microsoft.

They seem to be good with games but hardware seems to be getting more and more inaccurate, I really don't think the gap is even 4 million right now, since they were 2 million behind on the ps3 last shipment report (which was 3 million something less then MSes shipment report) with the 360 having more sales then shipped and ps3 being under tracked it's creating a pretty significant gap much of it is inaccurate it's no wonder people are surprised every time Sony comes out with their numbers 


that is true. i think vgchartz is undertracking the ps3 by quite a bit. Another thing is that accorinng to vgchartz sony had 2 million ps3s on store shelves when ps3 160gb was announced. You would think that if sony really had that much on store shelves that they would have given a clearence price cut. Now i hardly see any PS3 120gb in stores and the shelves are filled with PS3 160gb.



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goddog on 27 September 2010
SpartenOmega117 said:

I dont think xbox 360 will have a lead of 6 million by the end of this year. GT5 will sell consoles im sure. And sony has to be dumb not to bundle it with consoles. I think 360 will end up having a lead of maybe 4.5-5.5 million by the end of this year. And 5 million difference is not much anyways. Lets face it 360 came out a year earlier so it is natural for it to be ahead throughout this gen. The wii is a special case because well it was cheaper and was the "cool" thing to buy.

 

oh wait im going off topic. Anyways it might be possible. Blu ray sales are increasing every year. The ps3 price is decreasing every 1-2 years. Ps3 so far has the best line up for 2011. I dont think the 360 will even come close to the number of quality games ps3 will have next year. All those games might actually sell a bunch of consoles. Imagine the PS3 going $200-$250 next year too! Either way people who don't own a ps3 will be missing out. Luckily i own both 360/ps3 :)

"Ps3 so far has the best line up for 2011" deja vu for almost every year since the ps3 came out http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=5338


off topic, where have all these vgchartz .. well haters come from recently? did we piss of GAF or something? (ive never understood that squabble)... or is this a reaction to the 360 taking over weekly sales again? i reserve my hate for the NPD ...

 

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theonewhoisme on 27 September 2010
SpartenOmega117 said:
theonewhoisme said:
SpartenOmega117 said:
theonewhoisme said:
SpartenOmega117 said:

I dont think xbox 360 will have a lead of 6 million by the end of this year. GT5 will sell consoles im sure. And sony has to be dumb not to bundle it with consoles. I think 360 will end up having a lead of maybe 4.5-5.5 million by the end of this year. And 5 million difference is not much anyways. Lets face it 360 came out a year earlier so it is natural for it to be ahead throughout this gen. The wii is a special case because well it was cheaper and was the "cool" thing to buy.

 

oh wait im going off topic. Anyways it might be possible. Blu ray sales are increasing every year. The ps3 price is decreasing every 1-2 years. Ps3 so far has the best line up for 2011. I dont think the 360 will even come close to the number of quality games ps3 will have next year. All those games might actually sell a bunch of consoles. Imagine the PS3 going $200-$250 next year too! Either way people who don't own a ps3 will be missing out. Luckily i own both 360/ps3 :)

360 doesn't have a lead of 6 million now, I was in the thread discussing how accurate VG chartz is and I became aware that a few months ago they added 1 million 360 sales because of untracking that apparently happened 4 years ago, now a few months ago would be after the last shipment sales I saw from MS and Sony which put VG chartz .3 mil behind the shipped numbers, and since the mistake happend 4 years ago that means VG chartz thinks 360 sold more then it shipped..., thats not even possible

well vgcharts is not the most reliable source in the world but they do give good estimates. I would trust the shipment numbers given by sony and microsoft.

They seem to be good with games but hardware seems to be getting more and more inaccurate, I really don't think the gap is even 4 million right now, since they were 2 million behind on the ps3 last shipment report (which was 3 million something less then MSes shipment report) with the 360 having more sales then shipped and ps3 being under tracked it's creating a pretty significant gap much of it is inaccurate it's no wonder people are surprised every time Sony comes out with their numbers 


that is true. i think vgchartz is undertracking the ps3 by quite a bit. Another thing is that accorinng to vgchartz sony had 2 million ps3s on store shelves when ps3 160gb was announced. You would think that if sony really had that much on store shelves that they would have given a clearence price cut. Now i hardly see any PS3 120gb in stores and the shelves are filled with PS3 160gb.

There were also reportages of shortages when the silm came out, like I can buy 2 million on the shelf (since ps3 does sell in a lot of places) but I can't by 2 million on the self with shortages with wii being 1 million and 360 being .3 million, and I especially can't buy adding 1 million to the 360s sales after that because they under tracked it 4 years ago



SpartenOmega117 on 27 September 2010
goddog said:
SpartenOmega117 said:

I dont think xbox 360 will have a lead of 6 million by the end of this year. GT5 will sell consoles im sure. And sony has to be dumb not to bundle it with consoles. I think 360 will end up having a lead of maybe 4.5-5.5 million by the end of this year. And 5 million difference is not much anyways. Lets face it 360 came out a year earlier so it is natural for it to be ahead throughout this gen. The wii is a special case because well it was cheaper and was the "cool" thing to buy.

 

oh wait im going off topic. Anyways it might be possible. Blu ray sales are increasing every year. The ps3 price is decreasing every 1-2 years. Ps3 so far has the best line up for 2011. I dont think the 360 will even come close to the number of quality games ps3 will have next year. All those games might actually sell a bunch of consoles. Imagine the PS3 going $200-$250 next year too! Either way people who don't own a ps3 will be missing out. Luckily i own both 360/ps3 :)

"Ps3 so far has the best line up for 2011" deja vu for almost every year since the ps3 came out http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=5338


off topic, where have all these vgchartz .. well haters come from recently? did we piss of GAF or something? (ive never understood that squabble)... or is this a reaction to the 360 taking over weekly sales again? i reserve my hate for the NPD ...

 

edited

im not hating on anyone. Im simply stating some facts and my honest opinions.



theonewhoisme on 27 September 2010
goddog said:
SpartenOmega117 said:

I dont think xbox 360 will have a lead of 6 million by the end of this year. GT5 will sell consoles im sure. And sony has to be dumb not to bundle it with consoles. I think 360 will end up having a lead of maybe 4.5-5.5 million by the end of this year. And 5 million difference is not much anyways. Lets face it 360 came out a year earlier so it is natural for it to be ahead throughout this gen. The wii is a special case because well it was cheaper and was the "cool" thing to buy.

 

oh wait im going off topic. Anyways it might be possible. Blu ray sales are increasing every year. The ps3 price is decreasing every 1-2 years. Ps3 so far has the best line up for 2011. I dont think the 360 will even come close to the number of quality games ps3 will have next year. All those games might actually sell a bunch of consoles. Imagine the PS3 going $200-$250 next year too! Either way people who don't own a ps3 will be missing out. Luckily i own both 360/ps3 :)

"Ps3 so far has the best line up for 2011" deja vu for almost every year since the ps3 came out http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=5338


off topic, where have all these vgchartz .. well haters come from recently? did we piss of GAF or something? (ive never understood that squabble)... or is this a reaction to the 360 taking over weekly sales again? i reserve my hate for the NPD ...

 

edited

For the recorded I don't hate it but it is pretty inaccurate and I'm not going to pretend it is accurate, (I mean adding 1 mil because of a mistake they made four years ago with it .3 mil from shipped numbers, I mean thats just stupid)



goddog on 27 September 2010
SpartenOmega117 said:
goddog said:
SpartenOmega117 said:

I dont think xbox 360 will have a lead of 6 million by the end of this year. GT5 will sell consoles im sure. And sony has to be dumb not to bundle it with consoles. I think 360 will end up having a lead of maybe 4.5-5.5 million by the end of this year. And 5 million difference is not much anyways. Lets face it 360 came out a year earlier so it is natural for it to be ahead throughout this gen. The wii is a special case because well it was cheaper and was the "cool" thing to buy.

 

oh wait im going off topic. Anyways it might be possible. Blu ray sales are increasing every year. The ps3 price is decreasing every 1-2 years. Ps3 so far has the best line up for 2011. I dont think the 360 will even come close to the number of quality games ps3 will have next year. All those games might actually sell a bunch of consoles. Imagine the PS3 going $200-$250 next year too! Either way people who don't own a ps3 will be missing out. Luckily i own both 360/ps3 :)

"Ps3 so far has the best line up for 2011" deja vu for almost every year since the ps3 came out http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=5338


off topic, where have all these vgchartz .. well haters come from recently? did we piss of GAF or something? (ive never understood that squabble)... or is this a reaction to the 360 taking over weekly sales again? i reserve my hate for the NPD ...

 

edited

im not hating on anyone. Im simply stating some facts and my honest opinions.

didnt mean to call out you specifically, i wanted to comment on your next year looks great comment and then move to the second part . just looking through the boards in the last week and its been awhile since ive seen this many post/thread targeting VGCs numbers, there was a small rash this summer after quarter numbers went out, but prior to that i  can not remember the last time we have seen this much doubt. it would be before the slim launch.



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