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Prelim PS MOVE Sales IN! (140K Worldwide)!! Are you pleased?!!

AMAZING SALES 161 23.27%
 
BOOO! 119 17.20%
 
MEH! 412 59.54%
 
Total:692
jarrod said:
Kantor said:
jarrod said:

I wonder what Motion Plus sold first week?

That's just ridiculous. Inception really flopped, because look at how much Toy Story 3 has grossed.

lol, calm down, was just a question.  Little quick on the trigger there, you couldn't even come up with a decent analogue.

Hmm, it's hard to think of an analogy here, because you don't usually launch movies which are copy-improvements of tried and tested franchises.

I thought it might just be an innocent question, but I figured it was too obvious that Wii Motion Plus destroyed Move in opening sales and will continue to do so.



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jarrod said:
Rainbird said:
Maynard_Tool said:
Kantor said:
jarrod said:

I wonder what Motion Plus sold first week?

That's just ridiculous. Inception really flopped, because look at how much Toy Story 3 has grossed.

I believe Move is more of the competition to the WM plus, than Inception is to Toy Story....

 

After all, move is sont's desparete "move"  to counter attack nintendo's succes with the Wiimote.

And WSR is the sequel to the best selling game of all time, sure the comparison is fair!

Er, Motion Plus launched like a month before WSR iirc.  Except in Japan.

WSR is still the greatest killer app any peripheral like that can have, Move doesn't have anything that can make a straight forward comparison fair imo.



huaxiong90 said:
mortono said:

Disappointing sales. It seems you guys are sugar-coating this with "it's day one sales" and "it will have legs". But still, 140,000k is very low for something that had so much hype behind it.

Umm...hype?! Weak advertising. Weak launch software...and you're mentioning hype? Honestly, I don't know what to say.

OT: Not impressive and not disappointing. Can it sustain such sales? That is the question, and it can once some bigger titles/more ambitious projects come into play.

Just more sugercoating. It had a decent advertising campaign and certainly had a lot of hype behind it.They even had midnight openings at gamestop. Here's a picture from one of those events:

Hilarious! This is for something that was suppose to be like a new hardware cycle.

Let's get real here. The low sales are not due to "day one sales" or "bad marketing campaigns", it's due to the fact that nobody wants the Move. They already have a Wii and they are not interested in paying 300 dollars just so they can have Wii Sports Resort with HD graphics.



Kantor said:

I would be shocked if Move dipped as low as 50k for the rest of this year, really. It might towards the end of October, but then Black Friday hits and it will do fine.

You have to look at how Move launched. Zero advertising. Near-zero hype. Two Meta 75 games. One bundled with the controller. One multiplat with Move optional. 76 and 78. Quite frankly, until some good games start supporting the thing, it's going nowhere. Fortunately, the Heavy Rain Move Edition is coming, as are RE5, LBP2, and Time Crisis. Hopefully, they will all feature good Move support, and the hardware will start to take off.

50k is for NA only, so don't confuse that with WW.

Either way, I would say the advertising was sufficient and I don't see how people can say zero hype after it becoming the Wii killer due to being superior in every way. I don't have cable so I only watch the major channels (ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox), but I've seen plenty of advertisements for the PS3 & Move combined (mostly while watching football since thats all I've watched recently). I also got spammed by all sorts of online retailers trying to get me to buy Move. The advertising for Move may not have been for the average 13-25yo male (on channels like Spike or whatever they watch) but I've seen more than my fair share.

As for poor meta score games, WM launched with Wii Sports Resort and sold 500k in NA for week 1 with a meta of 80. I hardly find that as a good excuse for the huge difference in sales. In fact, I never consider meta scores a good indicator of sales potential other than things above 70 have a good chance of selling decently, and those below 70 have a good chance of selling 20m if they come bundled with a controller The price and lack of "hardcore" games would be a much better argument than the meta score and is probably the real reason for low sales.

As I stated, it pretty much has to maintain sales and probably increase for me to not consider it a flop.

EDIT: forgot that WM actually launched with Tiger Woods & Tennis and stuff, but the point still stands. Meta critic for games doesn't reflect how much a game will sell or its chance of success.




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Kantor said:
jarrod said:
Kantor said:
jarrod said:

I wonder what Motion Plus sold first week?

That's just ridiculous. Inception really flopped, because look at how much Toy Story 3 has grossed.

lol, calm down, was just a question.  Little quick on the trigger there, you couldn't even come up with a decent analogue.

Hmm, it's hard to think of an analogy here, because you don't usually launch movies which are copy-improvements of tried and tested franchises.

I thought it might just be an innocent question, but I figured it was too obvious that Wii Motion Plus destroyed Move in opening sales and will continue to do so.

Sure, I'd go for a product (ie: Zune and iPod) rather than a content related comparison.

And I'm genuinely curious about Motion Plus sales, always have been, and we never seem to get any word about them.



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Kantor said:
Maynard_Tool said:
Kantor said:
Maynard_Tool said:
Kantor said:
jarrod said:

I wonder what Motion Plus sold first week?

That's just ridiculous. Inception really flopped, because look at how much Toy Story 3 has grossed.


I believe Move is more of the competition to the WM plus, than Inception is to Toy Story....

 

After all, move is sont's desparete "move"  to counter attack nintendo's succes with the Wiimote.

Move isn't an attempt to counter anything. Only somebody who is truly delusional could ever have expected that.

No, Move is an attempt to steal some of the Wii's last-minute business, lengthen the gen by changing the game experience, and prepare core players for next-gen motion control, which will probably be ubiquitous.


So... you are telling me that move is an attempt to win some costumers over the wii... but is not trying to counter the wii's success.....

Got it

If Sony wanted to counter the Wii, they would have done it four years ago. To counter would be to somehow damage the Wii. Move isn't going to damage the Wii in any way. A handful of people (a very small handful) may choose it over the Wii, but it will mostly be selling to existing console owners, as shown by the data: 10,000 new consoles for 120,000 Move sales.

That's why it was only a desperate move.

Maybe you forgot about it, but this is actually the second time they try to counter the wii. Remember before, sony planned to launch a boomerang type controller... but then at E3 they presented the classic all time controller with the Sixaxis technology, a desparate attempt to counter the wii. It failed. It was an attempt to counter the wii, but it didn't do anything, hence it failed.

Move is just the second time for sony to try and damage the wii... that's why is an attempt. Will it work this time? doubt it. But we'll see, everything is possible.

And attempt to counter doesn't mean that it will actually counter efectively.



Rainbird said:
jarrod said:
Rainbird said:
Maynard_Tool said:
Kantor said:
jarrod said:

I wonder what Motion Plus sold first week?

That's just ridiculous. Inception really flopped, because look at how much Toy Story 3 has grossed.

I believe Move is more of the competition to the WM plus, than Inception is to Toy Story....

 

After all, move is sont's desparete "move"  to counter attack nintendo's succes with the Wiimote.

And WSR is the sequel to the best selling game of all time, sure the comparison is fair!

Er, Motion Plus launched like a month before WSR iirc.  Except in Japan.

WSR is still the greatest killer app any peripheral like that can have, Move doesn't have anything that can make a straight forward comparison fair imo.

And again, Motion Plus didn't have WSR when it launched... it had EA and Sega games.  So what's the problem?



mortono said:
huaxiong90 said:
mortono said:

Disappointing sales. It seems you guys are sugar-coating this with "it's day one sales" and "it will have legs". But still, 140,000k is very low for something that had so much hype behind it.

Umm...hype?! Weak advertising. Weak launch software...and you're mentioning hype? Honestly, I don't know what to say.

OT: Not impressive and not disappointing. Can it sustain such sales? That is the question, and it can once some bigger titles/more ambitious projects come into play.

Just more sugercoating. It had a decent advertising campaign and certainly had a lot of hype behind it.They even had midnight openings at gamestop. Here's a picture from one of those events:

Hilarious! This is for something that was suppose to be like a new hardware cycle.

Let's get real here. The low sales are not due to "day one sales" or "bad marketing campaigns", it's due to the fact that nobody wants the Move. They already have a Wii and they are not interested in paying 300 dollars just so they can have Wii Sports Resort with HD graphics.

Of course nobody wants the Move. For a starter, nobody's heard of the Move, and on top of that, it has two-half decent games and nothing which would really warrant a purchase for the majority of people. For now.



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I'm suprised by the sales. Actually, why are people buying one now?

I personally surely will buy one but I'm waiting for the right game. I know Ninokuni will use it, but perhaps we'll see a great game before.



Maynard_Tool said:
Kantor said:
Maynard_Tool said:
Kantor said:
Maynard_Tool said:
Kantor said:
jarrod said:

I wonder what Motion Plus sold first week?

That's just ridiculous. Inception really flopped, because look at how much Toy Story 3 has grossed.


I believe Move is more of the competition to the WM plus, than Inception is to Toy Story....

 

After all, move is sont's desparete "move"  to counter attack nintendo's succes with the Wiimote.

Move isn't an attempt to counter anything. Only somebody who is truly delusional could ever have expected that.

No, Move is an attempt to steal some of the Wii's last-minute business, lengthen the gen by changing the game experience, and prepare core players for next-gen motion control, which will probably be ubiquitous.


So... you are telling me that move is an attempt to win some costumers over the wii... but is not trying to counter the wii's success.....

Got it

If Sony wanted to counter the Wii, they would have done it four years ago. To counter would be to somehow damage the Wii. Move isn't going to damage the Wii in any way. A handful of people (a very small handful) may choose it over the Wii, but it will mostly be selling to existing console owners, as shown by the data: 10,000 new consoles for 120,000 Move sales.

That's why it was only a desperate move.

Maybe you forgot about it, but this is actually the second time they try to counter the wii. Remember before, sony planned to launch a boomerang type controller... but then at E3 they presented the classic all time controller with the Sixaxis technology, a desparate attempt to counter the wii. It failed. It was an attempt to counter the wii, but it didn't do anything, hence it failed.

Move is just the second time for sony to try and damage the wii... that's why is an attempt. Will it work this time? doubt it. But we'll see, everything is possible.

And attempt to counter doesn't mean that it will actually counter efectively.

Sixaxis was not intended to counter the Wii. Everyone just hated the Boomerang controller, and Sixaxis is nothing like free-motion. It's tilt sensing.



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