I think it counts as not only clubbing baby seals but also kicking puppies when they actually even lying about the amazon sales.

I'll take VGC "preliminary" numbers with a grain of salt like I always do. Until hardware numbers are confirmed by a reliable source, mabye you guys should find something else to argue about?

I'm not saying this as a Sony fanboy or whatever you might think. I truly do not care about Move, I just think VGC has a history of getting some things really wrong and I question their ability to reliably track a new hardware peripheral. Regardless of how you think it sold, prudence is advisable in this situation.

I also agree wholeheartedly with MM's statement.

Best selling game of all time = mediocre. You're funny.

Mediocre according to you maybe. Though I happen to think RE5 is pretty mediocre so it's all relative.. I personally think Wii Sports is a great game. It was the only time in a good 15 years I felt like I was playing something genininely new, and the only game in which my whole family from my 5 year old cousin to my 86 year old grandma had fun playing.

Sure it's bundled, but it still did 3.74 million in Japan where it ISN'T bundled, on a userbase of 8 million. Then there is WSR which has sold nearly 18 million and still on the top ten list. Hmm, guess the game must have done SOMETHING right, wouldn't you say? ;)

Those hardcore gamers really love their motion controls...

Never thought I'd be saying that!

Still dropping so, no.

Sales position on Amazon has never been a particularly good indicator of anything ...

With that said, I typically find using Futureshop and Bestbuy's websites and checking online/instore availability on a product is a good indicator of whether something is sold out. In the case of Move the $99 package appears to be sporadically sold out but the $400 move bundle is in stock everywhere. While I could be wrong, I suspect this means that move is moving at a moderate pace through existing PS3 owners but there isn't much interest in buying a PS3 for Move.

so quality=sales?

wsr and ws are mediocre games, at its time ws was innovative and something new, but overall it was repetitive and lacked structure

their is a difference btw games which catch the audience and quality games.

ot: move sales arent bad, considering all launch games were casual games the sales are actually pretty good. move is going to be a slow burner, many games are getting its support, and although many good games are going to have its support by november i and all of my friends are going to buy it in q1 2011 when kz3 socom 4 and infamous 2 release.

its good that my country gets the pal version, i would feel ripped off if i was obliged to buy sports champions bundled with my move controller and ps eye.

so will vgchartz track move sales or not, if not then it is useless debating move/kinect sales

VGChartz will track the sales and will report on them periodically. ioi posted this in the other thread.

It won't be tracked like a console or handheld though.

Just noticed on Play's updated sales chart

http://www.play.com/Games/Games/6-/TopSellers.html

That the starter pack has now left the top 10 but the motion controller on it's own has moved up to 2nd place.

Which is interesting because buying the items seperatly would be way more expensive then getting the starter pack. So that maybe means sales for it's 2nd week are mostly people buying a 2nd controller?

Sports Champions has dropped to 8th as well. It is up against some tough games this week in Dead Rising 2, F1 2010, Civilization 300 etc. then the following week it will be up against games like Fifa. Which is guranteed to be a massive seller.

If it can ride out those games and remain in the top 5 or so it will have a good life. If it doesn't then well i can see it falling out the charts fast really.