thismeintiel said:
steverhcp02 said:
Barozi said:
thismeintiel said:
Serious_frusting said:
has done 185K Units WW excluding Japan
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Uh, yea, this. Why are we creating an artificial handicap for the Move? Move controllers (which includes the Nav) should be counted as one unit. What's with this, "Well, we're only going to estimate unique users to the Move and that will be the official units sold"? First of all, VGChartz has never done this, so why is it doing it now? Second, that is entirely too difficult to even begin to estimate. I mean we don't even have any hard numbers on how many PSEyes are out there. So like Serious said, the real number of Move units sold is 185K. Not unless of course we're going to take away units sold from Kinect cause some people already have MS's 360 webcam.
And to all the Wii supporters, the Wii is number one and will stay there. So take a deep breath and calm down. Nothing its going to truly dominate Wii's lifetime sales, so there's no point in getting mad whenever the competition comes out with something similar to Nintendo. You guys are number one, so why are you so upset?
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flawed logic FTW !
I own a Wiimote but not a Wii, but according to your logic Nintendo sold me a Wii and I'm a potential software purchaser too !
Also Move only works if you have a PS3, the Move controller AND the PS Eye.
Counting only the Move controller just doesn't make any sense.
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Youre missing the point. VGChartz, to my understanding isnt supposed to report "unique" sales. If that were the case they wouldnt count PS3 slim sales, Xboxs sales or separate colored console sales as sold they would then have to research software tie ratio, extrapolate increased software on new hardware release weeks and determine how many new "unique" consoles were sold, right?. We count sales. Period.
I bought 2 PSMoves. I owned a PSeye. How many PSMoves did i buy? 2. How many did sony sell? 2.
I bought a PS3 60gb 3 years ago. I bought a bundled MGS4 limited edition bundle and sold my PS3 to my brother. How many PS3's did i buy? 2. How many did sony sell? 2. No different.
Trying to count "unique" sales is messy, and stupid. Because people start trying to makesilly analogies about owning only a controller.........
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Well, I bought 2 Moves and 2 Navs. That makes 6 controllers between the 2 of us. But somehow are 6 aren't supposed to count in the final tally on VGC because we both own a PSEye before hand. What?! How does that make any sense. Simple, it doesn't.
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I do disagree with the nav controller counting as a Move Unit. Move sales should be strictly Move controller given the circumstances. Dualshocks, which come with every PS3 so there is one in every home, can be used as a Nav controller.
The problem is VGChartz isnt just counting it as a single unit which it is. The playstation Move controller is called a MOVE controller, the PSEye has been available for a while is in many homes and can be bought on the cheap on its own for a while, the Nav controller simply is a cosmetically different dualshock which as i stated has been out with every PS3(since rumble) So when this NEW MOVE controller launches i dont understand why all of a sudden we are only tying it to sales of already available devices to justify its sell through.
It is what it is. Count the glowing ball controller sales and just be done with it. Sony doesnt only sell or ship a unit if its unique, its sold however many people buy. This site has never tracked unique users for anything, starting now is peculiar to say the least.