@kowhoho I did not say that most athiests do not have morals never once did I ever say that. I merely stated that all of the athiests I have ever known and believe me, theres quite a few, have all been egoistc elitists and somewhat closeminded. I do not know all of the athiests in the world and I never will, which is why I said that i'm sure that there are plenty out there with a great set of morals. You took that out of context aswell, I did not badmouth you and I did not bad mouth ALL athiests, just the ones that I know. If I don't know anything about something I'm not going to pretend that I do, I don't know you personally so I can't make any basis or judgement of your character and I can't say wether you have good morals or if you have none since I do not know you. The point of that previous message was to say that all of the athiests I have had personal experiences with and have gotten to know personally have been very egotistical and believing that they themselves knew everthing that there is to know. I merely stated that I mean no offense to athiests since I don't start fights with people I do not know or have any reason to start fights with and was merely just stating an oppinion which I can freely state here.

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@AOvechkin08 you may well have met many annoying atheists. But thats anecdotal and in the end doesn't mean much. Most of my friends are atheists and none of them are overtly elitist and certainly none of them are close minded. Infact I could say my experience is exactly the opposite and that my experience with theological people has been more akin to how you describe atheists. But that doesn't matter because ones experiences are an inadequate sample of people to justify saying that most Christians or Muslims or Hindus or whatevern are elitist, close-minded egotistical people. Its absurd to extrapolate that much.

And thats besides the point really. We're talking about morality and being elitist or egostistical may well be annoying but it certainly isn't murderous or perjurous, or any real concrete threat to civilisation.

Morality doesn't exist. It's a subjective and cultural judgment we've created out of, literally, thin air. I don't believe in it. I'm an atheist but I'm not immoralnor am I moral . I simply don't believe in any of that because It's only value is to sustain social cohension based on false, subjective pretenses.

What religion actually says God lives in cloud???. And while i dont know that my interpretation about my God is true, i know that interpretation about a God living on clouds is false. Is it that hard to understand?? If i can PROVE that there is no God living in the clouds than that interpretation of God is false. And since we know that no one lives in the clouds, we know 100 percent that is false.

what do you mean by gist? Did you mean list?

How exactly can you prove that when no evidence for gods existence actually... exists? It's all subjective as the actual concept of god is not set in stone.

Evidence about God not living in the clouds?  Uhh, have you ever been in a plane? If you were, did you ever see a God up there in the clouds? Or have you ever looked in the sky?

Again, the concept of god is wishy-washy. Have you ever seen god period? How do you know you can see god with your eyes? How do you know god exists at all?

A short paragraph explaining what you wanted to say.