jneul said:
Arius Dion said:
jneul said:
Arius Dion said:
jneul said:
Arius Dion said:
jneul said:
Jumpin said:
Bottom line, Sony has really gone downhill as a company:
1. Sony made an imitation product, and are now bashing the original product which they imitated; fairly dirty.
2. They went from first place and profitable to last place and losing billions.
3. They lost almost all of their important exclusives (the most important being Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy)
4. They're hypocrites: while Microsoft praised Nintendo's new innovations before making their own unique brand o Motion Controls, Sony bashed them before completely copying the (except with a mysterious pastel colour glow-ball on the end, probably to help the controller appeal to little girls who want to pretend they're Sailor Moon)
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1. sigh how many times do we have to post proof that move is no imitator have you lot not seen enough of this video yet http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbSzmRt7HhQ and there is an earlier video from 2001
2. video gaming changes rapidly Nintendo have gone from first to last as well look at what happened when ps first came out, i would not bet at wii staying up there for the rest of the gen, sorry but it is in decline now, your are right about losses but look at all the advancements made in gaming because of them, i have never seen anything as amazing as ps3, but just you watch wii2 will go HD and you all will start jumping on the HD bandwagon (hypocrites)
3. They have not lost all their important exclusives they just chose to let some of them go that's all, meanwhile sony is creating new innovative and exciting I.P's unlike others who just seem to be releasing re-hashed games... yawn
4. wrong they was going on about their own technology they though originally that move may have the same fate as eyetoy, even tho it sold well, long term software sales did die quickly, but since they saw that wii managed to keep the sales up for it's motion control device, they finally decided to unleash it.
Finally kinect is nothing new I love how all you hypocrites are calling it new well hello eyetoy hits you bam in the face, so far all the games are so much like eyetoy games it''s obvious, atleast move is innovating already, first RTS (RUSE) and echochrome ii is totally fresh
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So Kinect is a copy of Eye Toy, but the Move is Not a copy of the Wii mote. Interesting. What if some shoddy youtube video with a date of 1999 was shown and MS claimed they had this tech in mind waaaay before Eye Toy was released...Nah what am I saying you'd probably call that video a joke. Sports Champions is innovating. Not like I haven't seen those games before. You can't have it both ways, love.
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I said nothing about sport champions innovating, it only improves on WSR, what i did say innovated was echochrome ii, like i said above i think i am wasting my time now if you all want to be ignorant, that is fine by me
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No need for name calling. Improves on WSR? In what way? From what I've seen it looks inferior. Understand, tech is meaningless if it doesn't have software to back it up. And considering I am the consumer Sony wishes to reach to Move, they are going to have to try harder than a few Wii knock off titles to convince me.
None of the Move games are innovative, they have been done before. I was just exposing your argument about Kinect being a ripped off Eye Toy, which I believe it is. But I believe you can't hold kinect to that standard if you don't also hold the move to that standard. That being that its a Wii mote knock off. An extra accelerometer here or there ain't gonna change that.
But I've seen your posts before, so I'm probably the one wasting MY time.
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I DID NOT CALL YOU NAMES. To do that i would have todo more than what I did, right go watch the iWaggle channel and find the sports champions demo he did then please tell me if wsr is able to do it as well because that guy has played on wii sports resort as well and knows all it's flaws, so I am not the only one saying this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOIbYuJN6Nw, then watch the video leo posted.
Echochrome II is not innovate?? ok then spin away.
Finally it's not just one extra accelerometer, it has a magnet and a camera, and what about the gyros, what about augmented reality, what about object modelling, all you have to do is look at the tch demo's for an example of each being used, and augmented reality is already in start the party
at least if you are going to try and make out that wii is better please try and post proof, not unless you believe that extra precision makes it worse.... also you have not played move and wii motion plus with wsr like I have, so right now like it or not you are biased...
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I didn't say Wii was better or worst. I just said the games shown are inferior to their Wii counterparts. I've demoed Move at Best Buy and was not impressed at all. No need to spin anything. Proof is in the pudding, Wii's the dominant console this gen, so oviously the market believes Wii to be of more value.
Again, Tech means absolutely nada, if the software tied to it isn't compelling. We are gamers we talk about games on forums and all, but the mainstream gamer that Sony is attempted to woo with this product may not be. And regardless of your tech talk, it will be all for naught as many will look at Move and see the ipod's Zune.
Call me what you will, biased whatever. I could easily point to how you claim Kinect is a Eye toy rip off, but in the same sentence claim Move is NOT a Wii rip off..Come on..just look at them. Perhaps you are biased. Take off the glasses..Or put them on to play Killzone 3 with Move in 3D! Bad joke..sorry lol.
Here's the thing. I'm trying to turn over a new leaf. I'm not trying to argue on behalf of any particular company or be a company cheerleader and get pist or annoyed with someone with a difference in opinion. That energy is better used some where else.
You are excited for Move, that's cool. I'm not. That's cool too. I guess we can leave it at that.
As for the actual ad..not so sure its as big a deal as has been made. BHR made quite a title to get posts in his thread..hats off to that.
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I tried ps move at psn beta yet we have different views, and also the reviews disagree with you as well, saying it's no wii-copy and does improve upon wm plus, yes most of the games are average-mediocre ( fight night, kung fu rider), but there are really good release games out there, games which are more superior than the wii plus counter part like sports champions, ruse, hustle kings. The better games like socom 4, gt5, and sorcery are coming real soon, so we don't have to wait for long for good games, also you cannot deny the potential it has considering the tech demo's that anton showed off, seriously are you telling me things like object modelling so you could have your own in game assets on console games would not interest you??
Also lool wii has been out for 4 years of course move has less sales silly, and wii was cheaper than ps3 which is what ultimately swayed it in nintendo's favour, although ps3 has sold very well considering how expensive it was, and still is to this day for some people.
I know several of my wii friends which are ready to upgrade from SD and are drooling over the move bundle, it won't steal the whole wii audience, this is I'm sure you will agree on.
Finally now I get you,I was only doing what's called reverse psychology and trying to make everyone realise just how biased they are, as they said move was a copy and kinect was not and it was new and that is why they will ignore move etc, as usual people think i'm having a jab at kinect...
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. oh well, it's been fun atleast we understand each other better now, don't worry about it
