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darthdevidem01 on 03 September 2010
Carl2291 said:

Actually.

I remember VGC predicting that the PS3 Slim will move about 600k units in all September last year.

It did that in pretty much a single week

LMAO good times



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zgamer5 on 03 September 2010
kowenicki said:
zgamer5 said:
Carl2291 said:
kowenicki said:
zgamer5 said:
gtxmann said:

xbox 360 is king ,ps3 u r bad in selling


why are new people stupid? this site is slowly starting to become like ign. im going to open a school! education first! gaming 2nd!

it was the same, only worse, this time last year....

Not true.

This time last year people were expecting the PS3 to not top 300k in the Slim week, and quickly fall back down to 3rd place.

If you say what you just said in say... A Month's time. Then you will be right

im not talking about sales predictions! its just that were getting more fanboys coming in, most of the new owners are trolls and they say bold statements without solid arguements. its just annoying.

thats what I was talking about too...  sept to dec last year on here... wow!

well carl was saying something else. its funny sometimes but when people are serious its just sad.

also dear viewer you are the luck winner! i quoted you on my 999th post congratulations!



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postofficebuddy on 03 September 2010

 

TheSource said:

One of the reasons I have PS3 peaking in Sept 2009 - August 2010 is September 2010.

PS3 is going to be down over a million units against 2009 in September I'd say:

It sold 1.7m units in Sept 2009. Right now, even assuming some software lifts its trending for 600-700k in Sept 2010. October will likely be down again by several hundred thousand to half a million. Also, PS3 sold 300k week for each week of November 2009.  That probably won't happen until the second or third week of November. Down November usually means down December. So we should be done with worldwide PS3 increases for a while. Wii will be down in Oct-Dec as well. X360 probably up a bit (its mostly on hw changes and Kinect though - most of the big core games for X360 are sequels and won't push huge hw).

If you notice, PS3 is actually below 2008 levels heading into September (although probably flat next week), even though it is cheaper. Historically, price drops have less and less impact over time which is why PS3 probably hit its magic price point at $300, and may not top Sept 2009 - Aug 2010 even at $250 in 2011 (or even $200?).

Personally, I'm expecting Wii / PS3 price cuts in Spring 2011. Putting a price cut and Zelda in the same quarter in the middle part of 2011 would probably work pretty well, Wii seems to slow in April - Aug, so Zelda could push Wii for Apr and the price cut would keep pushing Wii for six months or so until the annual fall rush of titles arrives in Sept.


I'm sorry but I have to disagree with your first paragraph. Firstly I've said this time and again but even if it falls relatively flat in Americas move will likely have a pretty significant impact in PAL because for all intents and purposes it amounts to a €70/£50 price cut on the high end PS3 SKU which should lift its overall average in September well past 160k/week, although 180k/week would probably be slightly optimistic. So it shouldn't lose 1 million in September. I'd say 750k-850k is more realistic. Now I don't see PS3 matching its 250k/week average it had last October but with normal increases we see leading up to the holiday and the Move launch in Japan I think it could be close, possibly only losing 150k-100k. And with GT5 in the first week of November that month is going to be significantly up on last November. Just look at Japan, last November PS3 only sold 157k the entire month in Japan. Now assuming Sony stays consistent with their bundling and we see 200k of the blue GT5 bundle like we did with the GT5:P and Lightning bundles the first week of November will probably outsell all of November 2009 in Japan and worldwide likely be up 200k-300k depending on how big a boost it will give in Americas and EMEAA, and it's being bundled in every region just not with a limited edition blue console. Personally I think with GT5 December has the potential to match last December or at least come very close.



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iHuGi on 03 September 2010
trunkswd said:

Weekly Analysis Article has been posted. Click here to read it and view the graphs.

ty ;)



Maynard_Tool on 03 September 2010

Interesting numbers



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http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=63437&page=1

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Recon1O1 on 03 September 2010

No signs of any new baseline or average on 360 sales.  May not drop to the 70-80k/wk. most of us expect till after Reach now.  If at all this year.  Correct me if I'm wrong but that looks a bit like the start of a SW boost as well.  RDR has swung back in 360's favour as has Fallout 3, AC2 etc. and someone is buying ME2 so maybe the 360 B (for Black) is starting to affect SW finally.  Meaning that at least some of them are going to new owners.  Come on admit it!  Does the 20k for ODST indicate a small pre-Reach HW swell as well?  Why wouldn't a new buyer wait for the bundle though?  Most ODST sales must be existing owners I guess.  There are 6m Halo 3 buyers who didn't get ODST.  Who knows.

From Rhonin's post the most obvious no. to me is that  PS3 is up 23m YoY SW right now.  That will settle a bit but not like HW YoY.  There are 15m more PS3 owners than this time last year.  October should be up YoY unless most of VGC is way off on GT5's impact and multi-plat sales are a lot closer now for obvious reasons.  The 360 is already up almost 10m and will catch PS3 overall for SW in 2010 and start pulling farther away from their own 2009 totals in about two weeks.  A good year for SW and for profits I think.  Thanks Rhonin.

To those who were saying the gap was never 8m here is WW Weekly Aug. 22, 2009.

 

DS 384,437 (-6%) 108,546,381
Wii 185,085 (-16%) 52,230,122
PSP 122,262 (-10%) 50,756,896
X360 104,432 (-8%) 31,201,088
PS3 86,327 (-8%) 22,657,164
PS2 75,952 (-1%) 133,327,327

 

That's 8,544,924 in case you don't have you're calculators handy.  I remember thinking before the PSlim announcement that the 360 would hit 40m before the PS3 hit 30m.  What a turnaround.   

I know darth and co. are just kidding but PS3 is doomed?  Puhleeeaasse.  The downward trend in YoY nos. doesn't mean Sony won't be selling every box at a profit for a change and as stated the userbase for SW has taken an amazing jump in 12 months.  Wasn't Wii doomed last week?  It doesn't take much to get those things to move.  This year could still be the old story that ends with the little piggy going Wii, Wii, Wii all the way to the bank.  This year Ninty will just have some company.



Seece on 03 September 2010
kowenicki said:
TheSource said:

If Kinect doesn't push alot of hardware for X360 in Nov-Dec then there isn't anything to really push X360 in a huge way over the last couple of months. Halo / Call of Duty / Fable / Fallout are all sequels with one to several previous entries on X360. Medal of Honor and some others will push hardware, but there was unique stuff last year too. There will be some ongoing help from the Slim / new models but it just doesn't look like a dramatically better Christmas season given than X360 hardware sales declined last year.I still wouldn't be that surprised if it was down - if you look at PS3 last year weekly sales only doubled from the initial week of the PS3 Slim Price cut to the best week of the year. X360 had a temporary price cut, not a permanent one - I don't know that you can expect as big a lift from Slim week one to peak holiday week. The people shopping for Christmas don't give a damn about models just whether they have to buy a X360, Wii, PS3, DS, PSP or whatever, so the lack of a price cut / sequels would normally indicate flat to down Christmas for a system as old as the X360 even with the Slim. With Kinect and the new games for it, in addition to the sequels, and Slim it probably will be up a small amount. If Kinect flops, it will be down though. These Slim line models never seem to accompany any real software lifts either if you look at the totals when they launch - even though the overall base goes up, I don't know that they really sell to new users. I would never choose to not buy / buy a system based on its size - if you want the thing you can make room. In terms of interest from new users, even with Kinect and Move all three consoles are going to be in decline this Christmas, even though X360 will be up a bit and Wii / PS3 only down a bit.

 

I respect your opinion... but there is a notable and  HUGE "if'" statement  in there.

There's about 20 actually ...

and I'm surprised you respect his opinion, he never gives PS360 a fair shot and actually take the time to properly analyse them without always looking at the negative side.



 

Metallicube on 03 September 2010

Wow, what caused this sudden jump in Wii sales? Could the legacy really have made it jump that much? It can't be Other M...



Nintendogamer on 03 September 2010
Seece said:
kowenicki said:
TheSource said:

If Kinect doesn't push alot of hardware for X360 in Nov-Dec then there isn't anything to really push X360 in a huge way over the last couple of months. Halo / Call of Duty / Fable / Fallout are all sequels with one to several previous entries on X360. Medal of Honor and some others will push hardware, but there was unique stuff last year too. There will be some ongoing help from the Slim / new models but it just doesn't look like a dramatically better Christmas season given than X360 hardware sales declined last year.I still wouldn't be that surprised if it was down - if you look at PS3 last year weekly sales only doubled from the initial week of the PS3 Slim Price cut to the best week of the year. X360 had a temporary price cut, not a permanent one - I don't know that you can expect as big a lift from Slim week one to peak holiday week. The people shopping for Christmas don't give a damn about models just whether they have to buy a X360, Wii, PS3, DS, PSP or whatever, so the lack of a price cut / sequels would normally indicate flat to down Christmas for a system as old as the X360 even with the Slim. With Kinect and the new games for it, in addition to the sequels, and Slim it probably will be up a small amount. If Kinect flops, it will be down though. These Slim line models never seem to accompany any real software lifts either if you look at the totals when they launch - even though the overall base goes up, I don't know that they really sell to new users. I would never choose to not buy / buy a system based on its size - if you want the thing you can make room. In terms of interest from new users, even with Kinect and Move all three consoles are going to be in decline this Christmas, even though X360 will be up a bit and Wii / PS3 only down a bit.

 

I respect your opinion... but there is a notable and  HUGE "if'" statement  in there.

There's about 20 actually ...

and I'm surprised you respect his opinion, he never gives PS360 a fair shot and actually take the time to properly analyse them without always looking at the negative side.

No there's only 6 of them.



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Seece on 03 September 2010
Nintendogamer said:
Seece said:
kowenicki said:
TheSource said:

If Kinect doesn't push alot of hardware for X360 in Nov-Dec then there isn't anything to really push X360 in a huge way over the last couple of months. Halo / Call of Duty / Fable / Fallout are all sequels with one to several previous entries on X360. Medal of Honor and some others will push hardware, but there was unique stuff last year too. There will be some ongoing help from the Slim / new models but it just doesn't look like a dramatically better Christmas season given than X360 hardware sales declined last year.I still wouldn't be that surprised if it was down - if you look at PS3 last year weekly sales only doubled from the initial week of the PS3 Slim Price cut to the best week of the year. X360 had a temporary price cut, not a permanent one - I don't know that you can expect as big a lift from Slim week one to peak holiday week. The people shopping for Christmas don't give a damn about models just whether they have to buy a X360, Wii, PS3, DS, PSP or whatever, so the lack of a price cut / sequels would normally indicate flat to down Christmas for a system as old as the X360 even with the Slim. With Kinect and the new games for it, in addition to the sequels, and Slim it probably will be up a small amount. If Kinect flops, it will be down though. These Slim line models never seem to accompany any real software lifts either if you look at the totals when they launch - even though the overall base goes up, I don't know that they really sell to new users. I would never choose to not buy / buy a system based on its size - if you want the thing you can make room. In terms of interest from new users, even with Kinect and Move all three consoles are going to be in decline this Christmas, even though X360 will be up a bit and Wii / PS3 only down a bit.

 

I respect your opinion... but there is a notable and  HUGE "if'" statement  in there.

There's about 20 actually ...

and I'm surprised you respect his opinion, he never gives PS360 a fair shot and actually take the time to properly analyse them without always looking at the negative side.

No there's only 6 of them.

I was being sarcastic, if you want to be pinickity then 8, not 6 ...