Gamers have no clue what doom they're asking for with "1-to-1 functioning motion controls!~!~!"

You would never, ever, ever enjoy a sports game with 1-to-1 controls. Ever. Unless you're extremely proficient at the sport, in which case, you would probably rather go out and play it since it's your hobby.

Tiger Woods would NEVER sell if it had 1-to-1. I don't want to sound rude, but any gamer asking for a 1-to-1 golfing game has most likely never gone out and actually hit a ball before. Or they're smoking crack. I recommend going out to the golfing range at least, and coming back after hitting a bucket, and telling me you want 1-to-1 controls.

Shut the heck up with this stupid 1-to-1 crap, it isn't what is healthy for the industry.

There's a certain point in reaching realism that we can all enjoy, but once you pass a certain point and become too realistic, no one will enjoy it anymore.

he just needs someone to explain to him how it works he is used to a wii after all and when you get used to something like that it becomes habit, and you kind of expect it to work like that with everything. give him chance, the guy could be little more patient with him.

could someone please explain to me how 1 to 1 is a bad thing.

Then the father is definitely a prick

man I was gonna just stop it there but I can't resist answering some of the things you said

About your gun example, just wow. lol you can't be serious. I doubt the Move will be as heavy or have recoil like a real gun. We are talking about tracking here, you're just taking things a bit too far, almost ignorantly too far. When it comes to aiming and such 1:1 is a great thing there is no doubt about it, period.  We are talking about FPS here, not an FPS sim.

About being careful about the comment I made, why should I? I stand by what I said. And I didn't aim it at you per se, I was making a general notion about many who posted in this thread, some of which actually made it sound as if Ninty did the pre WM controls 'intentionally' which is as ignorant and bias as it gets. So be very careful, don't generalize the other way around either. If you are going to address the cons, address the pros as well.

I already told you the types of games that could use 1;1 tracking to it's advantage. Even then they don't have to use it for ALL the things you have to do in a game. They can use gesture recognition for that, keep in mind PS Move includes a camera that can track such gestures well (like in the FIGHT). So yes there should be a balance but it's very easily attained.

Games let us do things and experience things in ways we would never physically be able to do. If everything is 1-to-1, we can only do what our physical body enables us to do. Have fun playing Ninja Gaiden or God of War with that.

Have fun doing a spin attack in Zelda with 1-to-1 controls, have fun doing a lunge-jump. There's a reason why everything isn't 1-to-1. Sure, extremely menial movements and simplistic movements can be mapped 1-to-1, that's great! But start doing complicated things in 1-to-1 and you will get nowhere.

On a more realistic note, try imagine playing a golf game with 1-to-1. You would cry your eyes out. It would be unplayable. And anyone who was good enough to play it would probably have more fun going out and actually playing golf, since they're extremely profecient at the sport.

EDIT: Scrap that, there would be no one in this world good enough to play a golf game 1-to-1 with anything else than an actual golf club. It is impossible to do a golf swing perfectly with any type of controller. You need a golf club. You need the space to swing it. You need the insane skills to be able to do it well. And by the time you've gotten all that, you're better off going to tournaments and making actual money with golf, rather than playing a video game which gives no benifit. Oh and you're now down a few thousand dollars on golf lessons. Grats ^_^

well 1-to-1 IR tracking is already possible, and it is on the Wii in a few of its shooters I believe. I don't own them so I'm unsure, but I thought the conduit did? As far as I know, the issues are with what happens when you want to turn, and you move the pointer off the screen. As such, all FPS styles are now using the motion tracking from WM instead of IR, and I think it's all 1-to-1, just as the PSMove will be.

Wait, 1-to-1 aiming has been around since those arcade flash gun games, hasn't it? Why are we discussing it as a new thing? I guess I was going too far when I talked about realism, I assumed you were talking about more realism in FPS games than has already previously been shown 20 years ago, my bad. No need to get all tweaked out about it though, I didn't mean to push your buttons.

WM offered more than just the idea of true 1-to-1 controls. It offered better overall precision, something that was definitely needed for certain gameplay styles. As far as those Nintendo fans you're talking about, I'd be surprised if you really understood what arguments and preferences they have been showing the entire time. As you have pointed out, someone like you who wants 1-to-1 aiming in FPS doesn't necessarily want it in other gaming aspects. Just the same as those nintendo fans? The generalization you made was no better than the one I mentioned about PS owners. Those kinds of words have no place.

I also disagree on your golf example I don't see why a person couldn't use a move controller instead of a golf club. the move could not only allow for the game to teach you what your doing wrong in your swing, or how to do it better, not only that you get that and all sorts of other sports and hobbies all for $400 for initial set-up and $40-60 per game. which is definitely a lot cheaper than golf lessons and when you get bored you can change to something else you want to learn.

This has small refined wrist movements. It has back/top spin.

And it's more realistic. My little sister can beat my arse on Wii Tennis while sitting down and not even looking at the screen. I highly doubt she would be able to do the same with this. It's simply more realistic. Thus, IMO... Being a much better motion control experience.

I'm sorry, but have you ever played golf? Golf isn't like baseball where you can swing in a remotely reasonable fashion and expect to hit the ball well. There is so much precision and minute detail that goes into every golf swing, every single part of your body, and it takes months and years to perfect it well enough to hold your own on a golf course. Trying to pretend to be a professional is impossible.

And the golf swing is made possible by the golf clubs themselves. The weight, the balance, the form of the club, it's impossible to do a correct golf swing without the proper equipment. And trying to do it with a tiny, almost weightless controller....

It just isn't possible. A 1-to-1 golf game could never exist, it would be impossible for players. It would be impossible for Tiger Woods himself (discounting his recent poor performance).