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Seece said:
zgamer5 said:
Seece said:
CGI-Quality said:

@ Seece

I'm not saying GT5 will have legs in a matter of absolute fact, I'm saying the franchise is known for that. Looking at the Prologue, I think it wouldn't be a bad prediction, however.

The Prologue won't teach you anything. Previous main games have come out 6 months to a year after the Prolouge, this one? 2.5 - 3 years in some places, meaning if GT5 HAD come out 6 months after, it more than likely would have stumbled to 2 million.


i can say the same thing for halo 3.

What about it?

if halo 4 released 6 months after it, it would have never have reached 8 million.

point is halo isnt a game about great legs and at 6 months of sales it was about 7.5 million(im not sure), so 6 months after release it sold more then 3 million which is a lot.  prologue teaches us that their is an audience for gt5 and that the game will have legs.



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GT games historically have legs...its the last franchise that I'd expect to sell 5 million first week.

I expect to see plenty of "GT5 sales are disappointing" threads from people who don't realize this.



O.o

Even Just Dance 2 did better than GT5 this week... I wonder how Dance Central pre-orders are doing.



PS3 games tend to have far less preorders than 360 games especially in NA yet over time they tend to catch up pretty well. For example take out the first 2 weeks of Modern Warfare2 and PS3 is winning. 



GT5 commercial advertising hasn't started yet, anywhere in the world.

 

In a couple of weeks it will be 8 weeks from the release date, and PD should start trickling down advertisements here and there before swarming TVs, Gamestops, NASCAR, magazines, and other places around the world. Then the pre-orders will pick up. Up until now, they haven't done any commercial advertising other than small conventions like E3, GC, and soon to be TGS. Once the word gets out that this is REALLY the ACTUAL release date and the advertising begins, I'd expect to see pre-orders start climbing into the tens of thousands.

 

Besides, GT has always been a series that sells less than 20-25% first week, unlike a HUGE majority of other franchises out there. Thats why people claim that it has such 'legs'.



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cmeese47 said:

PS3 games tend to have far less preorders than 360 games especially in NA yet over time they tend to catch up pretty well. For example take out the first 2 weeks of Modern Warfare2 and PS3 is winning. 

If you take out the first two weeks of Modern Warfare 2 sales, you take away 5.7 and 3.7 million sales, almost half of the game sales, and still Modern Warfare for 360 will be ahead of the PS3 version. The current difference between games is 3 million, not less then 2.

However a lot of PS3 games do better then these pre-orders indicate because they either Appeal more to European or Japanese gamers (Gran Turismo 5), or because people don't know what to expect (Uncharted 2 only had 200k pre-orders before launch). As for Call of Duty, it's always been a bit more geared towards the 360 gamer (FPS branded console), and with timed exclusive map packs the 360 version gets more hype then the PS3 version (Just like Madden NFL 11 did for PS3, the PS3 sales were a lot higher this year).



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Solid_Snake4RD said:

 

 

Halo Reach

Modern Warfare 2 Black Ops
30 2,633 / 35,629 - -
29 4,164 / 39,793 - -
28 3,595 / 43,388 - -
27 3,430 / 46,818 - -
26 3,959 / 50,777 - 6,821 / 7,235
25 8,179 / 58,956 - 13,681 / 20,916
24 18,947 / 77,903 - 20,123 / 41,093
23 13,015 / 90,918 - 19,468 / 60,507
22 12,041 / 102,595 - 17,663 / 78,180
21 17,885 / 120,884 - 18,438 / 96,608
20 31,619 / 152,463 - 32,901 / 129,509
19 19,315 / 171,778 - 38,225 / 167,734
18 33,137 / 204,915 - 26,537 / 194,271
17 35,189 / 240,104 - 18,167 / 212,438
16 30,222 / 270,326 - 21,138 / 233,576
15 28,359 / 298,685 - 22,431 / 256,007
14 25,899 / 324,584 - 24,390 / 280,397
13 25,038 / 349,622
- 37,752 / 318,149
12 34,437 / 384,059 ???,???/ 431,166  75,791 / 393,940
11 55,319 / 439,378 62,360 / 493,526 84,158 / 478,098 
10 38,051 / 477,429 64,354 / 557,880  
9 50,884 / 528,313 76,060 / 633,490  
8  118,699 / 647,012 78,642 / 712,582  
7 126,340 / 773,352 69,995 / 782,577  
6 139,346 / 912,698
93,153 / 875,730  
5 158,668 / 1,071,366 117,815 / 993,545  
4 183,640 / 1,255,006
150,279 / 1,143,824  
3  203,984 / 1,458,990 295,004 / 1,438,828  
2   193,176 / 1,632,004  
1   225,290 / 1,857,294

 

 

 

 

Gran Turismo 5 Modern Warfare 2 Black Ops
30 1,616 / 63,500 - -
29 1,816 / 65,316 - -
28 1,682 / 66,998 - -
27 1,387 / 68,385 - -
26 202 / 68,587 - 4,743 / 5,134
25 1,294 / 69,881 - 10,093 / 15,227
24 1,278 / 71,159 - 14,772 / 29,999
23 1,825 / 72,984 - 13,424 / 43,423
22 2,007 / 74,991 - 11,529 / 54,952
21 833 / 75,824 - 11,207 /  66,159
20 3,547 / 79,371 - 14,977 / 81,136
19 9,587 / 88,958 - 13,623 / 94,759
18 7,340 / 96,298 - 14,997 / 109,756
17 10,092 / 106,390 - 12,422 / 122,178
16 8,135 / 114,525 -  13,741 / 135,919
15  9,098 / 123,623 - 13,549 / 149,468
14 7,455 / 131,078 -  16,745 / 166,213
13 6,478 / 137,556 - 19,665 / 185,878
12 6,342 / 143,898 ??,??? / 133,926 39,497 / 225,375
11  6,596 / 150,494
21,645 / 155,571 46,198 /  271,573
10 7,475 / 157,969 26,058 / 181,629  
9   29,209 / 210,838  
8   26,267 / 237,105  
7   21,718 / 258,823  
6   23,623 / 282,446  
5   40,227 / 322,673  
4   46,209 / 368,882  
3   112,003 / 480,885  
2   126,084 / 606,969  
1   141,123 / 748,092  

 

I noticed no one put the Gran Turismo 5 vs PS3 CoD comparision, so I'm doing it. However I hve no clue how to make a table like that without manually typing every number in, so I just quoted this guy from last week, and added new figures.

I couldn't figure out how to cut out 360 from this post, so ignore that (although I did update it too).

BTW I am really disapointed at Halo figures this week. How did Black Ops manage to get so many pre-orders, but Halo so close to launch is only getting 200k. I mean that is a lot, but this is a Halo game. Call of Duty come every year, and they all sell well regardless of quality.

Also does anyone know why Black Ops suddenly jumped in pre-orders the last 2 weeks?

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zgamer5 said:

sad sad gran turismo


Maybe but at least the Kinect Adventure pre orders cooled off as it was in danger of being overtaken.



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Michael-5 said:

I noticed no one put the Gran Turismo 5 vs PS3 CoD comparision, so I'm doing it. However I hve no clue how to make a table like that without manually typing every number in, so I just quoted this guy from last week, and added new figures.


That is how everybody does it...



HexenLord said:

GT5 commercial advertising hasn't started yet, anywhere in the world.

 

But it has. The game shops have posters in the windows. The websites have been running campaigns for sometime. They have done adverts on the special edition of the game. And i imagine in the next few weeks they will start with the GT5 PS3 bundle ads on tv.
This is GT5 were talking about, not some unknown game. It was meant to be released in 2007. Everyone knows about the game.

Sony obviously will not compete with Microsoft in terms of advertising. MS are masters at it but more importantly throw mega millions at it.

Also i thought i would point out that in UK at least the various pre-order charts don't have GT5 doing much better.

Game have it at about 8th http://www.game.co.uk/Default.aspx/Games/_/N-1z13fvfZ1z13f85?Nk=none

Amazon have it at 8th http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/new-releases/videogames/ref=pd_nr_zgc_vg_h__video_games_display_on_website_more?pf_rd_p=467646873&pf_rd_s=right-8&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_i=300703&pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_r=0337ZT7J3R94EGANQJN0

HMV have it at 7th http://hmv.com/hmvweb/comingSoon.do?ctx=-1;6;-1;-1;-1&pGroupID=6&pSubGroupID=-1&pGenreID=-1&pTertiaryID=-1&primaryID=6&subPrimaryID=-1&secondaryID=-1&tertiaryID=-1&_tag.WT.ac=highlights_games_260410_comingsoon

Play have it at 6th http://www.play.com/Games/Games/6-/PreOrderChart.html