When I say push hardware I mean more than a couple hundred thousand.

Regarding the "missing" 360 software sales:

Remember that the total software sold each week is HUGELY estimated, and titles outside the top few are largely estimated as well, and then adjusted when fiscal periods end and pubs/devs/console makers post sales figures for respective areas/titles.  It's really hard to track them.  When there is no dominant  title that all new console buyers are picking up, it makes it very difficult to track sales. I still bet there's more out there than is showing up - i.e. lots of greatest hits and the like of titles that people new to the console have heard about but never got to play and now they're cheap.  

True for ALL platforms, not just 360.

Well in a few weeks the PS3 is going to be way down YOY (once the price cut/slim release from last year comes around), will that mean that it's suddenly doing bad?

I'd say it would be the other way around. 1.1 million new 360 owners and 650K upgraders. It's silly to think that a new designed console a phat clearance sale isn't going to attract significantly more new 360 owners than in the weeks prior to the 360s phat clearance sale. And I don't recall anyone claiming that the entirety of the post 360s boost is due to upgraders. People were suggesting that a substantial number of 360s buyers were upgraders, and there's validity to that claim.

In a discussion like this the tie ratio actually serves a purpose in suggesting the approximate proportion of upgraders. In the proportions you suggest as being what certain people think, assuming the alleged 1.1 million upgraders are buying few or no games, the "true" tie ratio relative to the 650K new 360 buyers would be about 14.5. Clearly a ridiculous notion. 360's LTD tie ratio is 8.76 at the moment, down from 8.86 the week before slim launched. That's quite a substantial drop over such a short period of time.  The tie ratio for that 8 week period is a miniscule (for the 360) 5.49. Now there's no way you can convince me that new 360 buyers are buying games in greater numbers than normal, yet the overall weekly tie ratio is substantially lower than normal.

Much more believable is if the new 360 buyers are buying roughly the same number of games. But there's a large enough number of upgraders who are not buying games to have a significant effect on the tie ratio (both the 8 week tie ratio and the LTD tie ratio). If we put the new 360 buyer number up at about 1.1 million as an estimate, with 650K being upgraders, then the tie ratio for that 1.1 million is about ~8.7. That seems pretty close to being right. So the upgrader % seems to be about 35-37% of weekly sales, or 59% of the boost over the 8 week pre-360s sales.

So, you produced some good figures there, almost correctly guessing at the number of upgraders without actually meaning to. You're an accidental genius!

And the PS3 had a legion of system sellers? Besides, FFXIII (a sequel, which won't have an impact according to your logic) there really isn't much in the way of system sellers at all this year (so far). FFXIII and Galaxy 2 are roughly on par as system sellers as I see it and both the Wii and PS3 got price cuts at almost the same time last year, yet the Wii keeps falling the PS3 is massively up. They are on equal grounds as it stands, with the main difference being that the PS3 still costs 50% more than the Wii, what does this tell you?

Its not a crisis, there's no reason to fret over numbers, I sinply wish that people would stop blaming the Wii's decline on lack of system sellers and realize that it is due to the nature of the product itself and a direct consequnce of Nintendo's strategy this gen. Like I said; the PS3 has not had a stellar year in terms of software at all, mainly sequels and then one big hit in FFXIII, which is easily countered, like I said, by Galaxy 2.

FFXIII and galaxy 2 are NOT on par. FFXIII is clearly a bigger system seller here. FFXIII was the first game of the series on PS3, but there was already a galaxy game before on the wii.

And the price cuts are not equal either. Wii was $50 and PS3 was $100 with a new slim line. I don't get how people can think they are on equal ground.

Also people seem to forget that the wii has sold over 70M already. It is bound to slow down at some point. Meanwhile PS3 sales were quite bad pre-slim.

The wii sales are not as good as they used to be, and I agree that it isn't only because of no system sellers, but it isn't helping. I think there are a lot of different factors at work.

Price cuts of Wii and PS3 are comparable. 
Wii was cut 20%
PS3 was cut 25%

Wii Sports Resort which was considered Wii's top 2009 system seller was added to the Bundle along with WiiMotion
PS3 got a smaller console

I would say that this is definitly equal ground.

Wii sales are slowing because of competition, not because of software.  Consumers see motion gaming choices on the horizon and a good deal of them are going to take a wait and see approach.  Some consumers, that would have picked the Wii before, are going to say we can have motion gaming and a whole lot more with the PS3 or the 360 and not pick the Wii.

Even some ps3 fanboys prefer the 360 on top than the Wii, funny.

A few of the DKCR predictions here are pretty funny.

I think it will clearly be the best Wii game of the 2nd half, but will hardly manage to sell more than 4m LTD. And given that Wii games, especially casual Wii games have good legs, I doubt DKCR will even break 2m for this year. HW wise only a minimal bump.

Same goes for Kirby and Epic Mickey, with the exception that they will most likely sell only about half as much as DKCR.

4 million? Sounds a tad short, but who knows? Its hardly a NSMBWii at any rate. Then again, what is?