Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 has currently sold 8.37 million units, so it's 1.63 million units away from the 10 million unit mark. It's still selling about 40,000 units weekly, so at this rate, the game will need a little over 40 weeks to break the 10 million barrier. However a sequel is comming out in I beleive 12 weeks? Okay it's not a direct sequel, but it will severly cut Modern Warfare 2 numbers, and by next fall a proper sequel will come out.

Maybe Modern Warfare 2 will break 10 million units sold, but 1.63 million is a lot of units, thats basically how many units Battlefield: Bad Company 2 sold to date on the PS3 (It  sold 1.73 million units to date).

wow you write so muchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

and why the hell are you comparing to BFBC2 and what do you want to prove????????

I'm a big racing fan, and Gran Turismo isn't necessarily the best racing franchise.

what the hell do you even want to say by that?????????

and even if you don't think its not the best,this is a sales thread not quality judging thread

The point I want to make here is that the 360 has many good-great racing games. Project Gotham Racing 3 and 4, Forza Motorsport 2 and 3, Test Drive: Unlimited are all great racing games, all of which getting higher then 8.5/10 scores, with Forza 3 getting as high as 9.2-9.5 scores. For the period of time from 2005-2010 fall, a portion of the Gran Turismo fans may have switched over.

oh yeah they switched to NFS too on the PS2 but they stil bought GT4

I own Gran Turismo 1-4, and I played them extensivly, Forza is a proper compeditor, and why would I wait for GT5, the only good PS3 simulation racing game, when I have many alternatives on the 360?

even KILLZONE,RESISTANCE are proper competitors but people just run behind HALO

and if you won't wait doesn't mean everybody else won't wait

and for your info GT5P has been released so there has been a good game even if it was a demo and a pretty big one,better than your 'ALTERNATIVES' atleast for its time and still one of the best

Also wait for the best? Right now the best racing simulator is Forza 3, and it's been out for almost a year already. GT5 may get slightly higher ratings, but for the amount of time it took to produce, I don't think it's worth it.

it isn't about you here

Also, Sony doesn't have an official PS3 racing wheel. How can you say GT5 is going to be the best, when there isn't even a proper steering wheel for the game? Yes Logitec make steering wheels, but only on table mounts, and placing it on your lap is uncomforitable (You have a wedge near your crotch, between your legs). This is a big reason why I can see a lot of hardcore racing fans switching over. You can't play GT5 and Forza 3 with a standard controller and complain about which one is better.

you wil see this November

As for competition, you have to realize that a lot of casual PS3 gamers will get Gran Turismo 5, and with Mario Kart being over 3 times as popular (in terms of sales) then ever before, Gran Turismo has more competition. Yes Forza has improved drastically in quality from Forza 1, but thats not the only competition.

LMAO

"Mario KART to cut GT5 sales"

And yes it has been 5 years. Gran Turismo 4 came out in early 2005, and in december of 2004 for Japan. So it's actually almost 6 years. No matter how good the game is going to be, it's not going to be significantly better then Forza 3, and therefore not worth the wait to me. For me, I actually beleive Forza is a better franchise then Gran Turismo, and I can name many reason why. No stupid licencing, no repeating races in the same to to generate enough cash to advance, simulation damage on all cars (GT5 has cosmetic damage on 200 cars), licenced Porsches (Porsches in GT5 are not sold under the Porsche name, but under a tuning company name such as RUF), more race tracks, real time tire deformation, etc.

you are so confident that this world revolves around you

and PS3 was released in 2006 so the game has only been due since its launch not from its previous release and they never announced a release date before the MARCH 2010 release

"simulation on all car".........lmao

aren't you forgetting that forza has way lesser cars and other stuff and detail.

you try so hard,try relaxing sometime

Mind you GT5 is an awesome game, I'm not trying to put GT5 down, I love Gran Turismo, and I plan to buy a copy down the road. It's going to be a big system seller, and an amazing game. Just to balance things out here are reasons why GT5 is better then Forza 3: Better interior graphics, interior rear view shows in car rear window and back seats, shadows are created by a fixed light source in GT5 (in Forza shadows move baised on your cars position, but do not take into account shadows of hills and other vehicles), 16 car racing (not 8), double the cars, rally racing, etc.

WOW,You try to act so innocent and goody goody but pulling down the game and then saying good things about it so that people don't see the real you

embarrasing?

yeah it looks embarrasing when previous GT games also hadm low preorders and did do well and HALO only has one game as high as GT main games

you're correct

So are you saying pre-orders aren't an important part of the process or you can't judge a games excitement level from them?  Another question, did they even have pre orders back then?  Possibly for GT4 but I am almost certain they didn't for the others.  So to be honest you can't base anything on past pre-orders for GT.

So are you saying pre-orders aren't an important part of the process or you can't judge a games excitement level from them?  Another question, did they even have pre orders back then?  Possibly for GT4 but I am almost certain they didn't for the others.  So to be honest you can't base anything on past pre-orders for GT.

pre-orders are important but not always and not with all games

NSMB Wii had way less pre-orders but it did much more than MW2

they didn't track pre-orders back then but you can know when the opening is only 2m whereas now opening are bigger and still GT4 and many other games went on to sell more than the ones that had higher pre-orders

actually i can,if you are on this site and been tracking sales for long times you get to know the different patterns

What exactly do you mean here, I have no idea what you can?  Are you saying you can say that pre-orders aren't important?  If so see Hyruken's post directly above yours.  He hit the nail on the head.

no i didn't say pre-oders don't matter

just saying that they matter in some cases and not so much in other cases

i didn't read his post,it was too bulky and wall type

The way things work now days is so much different than when GT4 hit the street.  A majority of "Hardcore" gamers exclusively pre-order online to get a better deal or something free.  And you can all but tell how well a game will do by its first week of sales.  

yeah we can have an idea of what it will do first week but nowhere near the figure itself just an estimate

for example uncharted had low pre-orders and it sold almost double first week

and we don't know how well game will sell further along the line

"NSMB Wii had way less pre-orders but it did much more than MW2" There is a couple huge reasons that this happend:

1)  Casual gamers.  You know who they are, the ones who never pre-order games and mostly own a Wii.  Simply put there are vast numbers of them on the Wii, not so much on the PS3 or Xbox 360.  

sure

2) Brand Recognition.  Mario is simply the best known and loved gaming figure in the industry.  Like it or not, GT5 has no where near the brand recognition or loyalty that Mario does.  Mario has sold more consoles and video games than any other character.  

mario is big  but not the biggest,yeah when userbase is there the casuals just hop on but i don't agree with it being the best and biggest.i certainly wasn't in GC era

GT5 doesn't have as much brand recognition but it doesn't need to sell 10m as mario much more than that

abt loyalty,GT has alot of loyalty.i would be concerned more about mario as casuals don't give shit about loyalty

abt mario selling more console and games,mario has also been milked to death and has more games than anyother franchise and about console,we can't say whats sold nintendo console and maio alone can't be given credit as wii sports old more than NES than MARIO helped selling

Have any other "recent" games done what NSMB Wii has done, without pre-orders.  I don't think so, unless it was Wii Fit or something else casual.  I am not trying to put down GT5, I am just realistic when it comes to sales.  So many people around here think its going to sell a bajillion copies and when it doesn't those same people here will wonder why.  

it is realistic for GT5 to sell high

even you would agree it will sell atleast 5m as GT5P did

MORE OVER IT WILL HAVE A MUC BIGGER OPENING THEN gt5p so already its more and then it will get bundled

(If it does go on to do more than 10 million I will eat my crow well done and you can say I told you so, but I don't think that will happen). 

your prediction you decide

Zero

It would take the game to sell to over 25% of all PS3 owners. Given that a proportion of people use their PS3 exclusively for Blu Ray movies I think even GT5 will struggle.