How many PS3 games will break the 10 million sold barrier?

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damndl0ser said:

Solid_Snake4RD said:

damndl0ser said:

Solid_Snake4RD said:

bonkers555 said:

I voted 2 earlier but now think about it a little bit more I will have to say 0.  I will say that MW2 have the best chance but GT5 will fall short.  Looking at the Pre-Order numbers for GT5 it looks kinda embarrassing for a Sony #1 (GT5) exclusive vs M$ #1 exclusive (Reach) to have such a BIG gap.

 

yeah it looks embarrasing when previous GT games also hadm low preorders and did do well and HALO only has one game as high as GT main games

So are you saying pre-orders aren't an important part of the process or you can't judge a games excitement level from them?  Another question, did they even have pre orders back then?  Possibly for GT4 but I am almost certain they didn't for the others.  So to be honest you can't base anything on past pre-orders for GT.

pre-orders are important but not always and not with all games

NSMB Wii had way less pre-orders but it did much more than MW2

they didn't track pre-orders back then but you can know when the opening is only 2m whereas now opening are bigger and still GT4 and many other games went on to sell more than the ones that had higher pre-orders

actually i can,if you are on this site and been tracking sales for long times you get to know the different patterns

What exactly do you mean here, I have no idea what you can?  Are you saying you can say that pre-orders aren't important?  If so see Hyruken's post directly above yours.  He hit the nail on the head.

no i didn't say pre-oders don't matter

just saying that they matter in some cases and not so much in other cases

i didn't read his post,it was too bulky and wall type

The way things work now days is so much different than when GT4 hit the street.  A majority of "Hardcore" gamers exclusively pre-order online to get a better deal or something free.  And you can all but tell how well a game will do by its first week of sales.  

yeah we can have an idea of what it will do first week but nowhere near the figure itself just an estimate

for example uncharted had low pre-orders and it sold almost double first week

and we don't know how well game will sell further along the line

"NSMB Wii had way less pre-orders but it did much more than MW2" There is a couple huge reasons that this happend:

1)  Casual gamers.  You know who they are, the ones who never pre-order games and mostly own a Wii.  Simply put there are vast numbers of them on the Wii, not so much on the PS3 or Xbox 360.  

sure

2) Brand Recognition.  Mario is simply the best known and loved gaming figure in the industry.  Like it or not, GT5 has no where near the brand recognition or loyalty that Mario does.  Mario has sold more consoles and video games than any other character.  

mario is big  but not the biggest,yeah when userbase is there the casuals just hop on but i don't agree with it being the best and biggest.i certainly wasn't in GC era

GT5 doesn't have as much brand recognition but it doesn't need to sell 10m as mario much more than that

abt loyalty,GT has alot of loyalty.i would be concerned more about mario as casuals don't give shit about loyalty

abt mario selling more console and games,mario has also been milked to death and has more games than anyother franchise and about console,we can't say whats sold nintendo console and maio alone can't be given credit as wii sports old more than NES than MARIO helped selling

Have any other "recent" games done what NSMB Wii has done, without pre-orders.  I don't think so, unless it was Wii Fit or something else casual.  I am not trying to put down GT5, I am just realistic when it comes to sales.  So many people around here think its going to sell a bajillion copies and when it doesn't those same people here will wonder why.  

it is realistic for GT5 to sell high

even you would agree it will sell atleast 5m as GT5P did

MORE OVER IT WILL HAVE A MUC BIGGER OPENING THEN gt5p so already its more and then it will get bundled

(If it does go on to do more than 10 million I will eat my crow well done and you can say I told you so, but I don't think that will happen). 

your prediction you decide