Yeah but don't you take a crap when you die? Wouldn't that account for it?

Got ya :)

Last time I checked Jesus doesn't equal religion. People kill people over religious beliefs. Those particular deaths would not have happened if it wern't for religion. You can bend it any way you want, but it's still the truth. Hundreds of thousnads of millions of people died because of the God they believe in. No way around it.

Morals are not about self-preservation, they can be self-less... thinking about it, it sounds contradictary... I'll do what's right and good so I can survive... there's self-ishness in that. You do what's good and right because it's good and right, even if it means not surviving. That's why such way of thinking could'nt have been possible without G-d and doesn't fit very well in your example because it's about survival.

I already told you, morals are for the preservation of the group. Living within a group is necessary for an individuals survival, hebce the individual respect follows certain rules to assure that the group survives and people can coexist within the group. This also brings him/her a personal advantage.

You don't either... and that's why it's something to be accepted or denied. My dog's name is Happy... do you believe me?

I've never seen such a lack of reasoning ever. Your dog's name is whatever you say it is. If you say your dog's name is Happy, then it's name Happy. If you say your dog's name is X-345 then it's name is -345. A name is an abstract notion. Why do you beleive that that thing you call "truth" is true? You say you have to accept or deny it, but before you reach the accepting/denying you have to go through a process of resoning to determine if what you call "truth" is in fact true. Sounds to me like you've skipped that part and blindly accepted something.

It's beyond me to prove it to you. It's something you accept or deny.

No reasoning whatsoever on your part.

Were getting no-where... and I honestly never wanted to argue

I knew we would get no where the first moment I read your post. Don't know why I even tortured my keyboard's buttons typing this.

I didn't argue against that as such. I'm arguing that in organised religion it's much worse.

Oh really now. Link please. Or at least a detailed explanation.

I m not going to read all this threat, but back to OP, if the religion did not exist, it would be created as a way to support the people's bad times.

As i said before: "The church is a institution i preffer the most, compared to any other activity the human weakness can do"

*sigh*

Even if most people here seem to be non-religious, they still have a very colorful way of seeing things. No religion would definitely not mean less war.

Wake up and smell the coffee. Human race would find another excuses to kill themselves like they always did.It's a miracle our species still exist considering how uncooperative, physically unprivileged and violent we are compared to almost anything else in this world.

One of the best posts here. This is of course assuming that the human race has a tendency to be evil. I think that because throughout history most war were fought for power which also involved religion as its backbone causes people to think the world would be peaceful without religion. People would still fight over power if religion did not exist. Also living life for power in money could be just like a religion. In the end, I agree that the human species is selfish and has to be for its survival as individuals or groups so there would always be war.