Well, this is a rather odd statement.  You take away the innovation itself and then demand where the innovation is.  More ironic still is that the competition is doing everything they can to copy Nintendo move for 'move' and 'kinect' with this new segment of the industry.

And PilotWings. Man, I'd like to see PilotWings again. ;)

I know. It's a total BS argument. It's like saying a bomb isn't dangerous. Take out the explosives, and what is there.

I didn't realise that we were bringing in DS games, I was only talking about consoles, otherwise I would have mentioned some PSP games. The Wii is the problem, not the DS.

The bolded part refers to them in general. And you clearly didn't notice a lot of what I listed is still on the Wii.

You do realize you're living up to your namesake and chasing your tail, don't you? You're demonizing the very aspect that enables new gameplay styles.

With the N64, new gameplay elements came about because of the new input elements.  Go ahead and make Z-targeting and Mario 64 with the old SNES control pad.  It doesn't work right.  New gameplay is a direct result of the options opened up via new input.   And I think Wii Sports itself showed huge steps forward in new gameplay styles. 

And many other games this generation from Nintendo have shown new gameplay styles not possible with a standard controller.  And whether you like the New Play Control series on Wii, it does bring new control styles to older games to enhance them (plus you forget that GC was owned by just 21 million people while Wii is already owned by over 70 million people meaning that there are 3 times as many people who never got a chance to play those older GC games that do now).

Then of course there is the law of diminishing returns.  The simple fact exists that fewer and fewer new gameplay elements will created as time goes on or they'll only feel like moderate upgrades from previously established gameplay styles.  Radical gameplay changes at this point require something else radical to enable it.  Much like motion controls did already.  It's very similar wot why we see fewer and fewer new game genres.  All the new ones are more or less mixtures of already established genres now.   Gameplay is going through a similar phase. 

Wait, you did not state that directly before. So you can't call on us for confusing your comments if you don't state the points directly.

New content and innovation are distinct things. They can overlap, but you have to clarify which is which.

Oh, and if the article is about content, it sure doesn't seem like it. So either there is something we missed, in which case don't blame us still, or you'r just inferring there is.

The article is specifically talking about the Nintendo Wii, I assumed that everyone else in this thread was also talking about the Nintendo Wii. So when I mention Nintendo in my post in this thread, I'm obviously referring to Nintendos performance on the Wii.

Xenoblade, Wii series, The Last Story and Endless Ocean are the only Wii IPs you mentioned. Xenoblade has only been released in Japan with no Western release scheduled and The Last Story hasn't been released yet, so no one knows if it's going to be any good or not. Your post proves my point and unless you try a littler harder I will remain convinced that Nintendo have put little effort into introducing new IPs this gen.

But if you add qualifiers, then I can knock off most of the HD games you listed using various means.

And why is a new IP so vital? You need a solid game as well, and Nintendo is not going to make a new IP just for the sake of it. And so far you haven't given a reason to have a new IP other than for the sake of it.

true, if you make up some qualifiers with that intent you could, but I think his qualifiers actually make sense.  Every game he listed besides perhaps Crackdown (don't recall for that one) was extremely well received and are widely regarded as great-fantastic games.  You can't say the same for games that haven't even released over here yet.  If he used your qualifiers he'd have an even bigger list.