Hey man... I live in Europe.. we even get more ripped off then you guys....

$300 is a tiny bit high considering how low console prices are these days.

But I think that it's a good deal. But $150 for stand-alone? That's stupid.

Its looks a way better deal than buying a knetics stand alone with a game for 150 i mean it does not comes with the console so the Wii still is a better choice but for 300 packed with it has a way better chance to sell.

It is, indeed. It's like the whole world is paying extra for video games in general so that the Americans can have it cheaper; and then whine about it being expensive...

First, in response to the implied presumption that pre-order sales will be "rocked even harder" with the addition of an included game, I have to say that the inclusion of Kinect Adventures is not added incentive for consumers to buy Kinect, whether it's the standalone kit or a Kinect bundle.

That's like throwing in a copy of Wii Play without the extra remote.

In fact, I'd kind of hope that for the holidays, MS will also throw in at least one more decent "regular" title to go along with Adventures in their Kinect/console bundles.

Secondly, I totally agree that the pre-orders (which have sharply tapered off in the weeks following E3) are a pretty poor indicator for actual retail sales.

Regardless, I think the Kinect bundles will move quite well this holiday season. If not... maybe we'll be seeing those slashed SKU prices Xbox fans were predicting sooner than later.

That is really the important price.  MS wants new customers with Kinect.  So the bundle is priced right.

would anyone here buy the 360 kinect bundle to replace their old 360 if it breaks down? a 4gb console, i mean if a customer goes and see a ps3 for 300$(the white is going to be at 360 gb, dont know if its coming to the us or not, the normal one is how much 160 gb, 120 gb?) a x360 for 300$(250 gb) and a x360(4gb) with kinect what are they going to choose? if they feel like buying a hard drive then it will be the one with kinect, but are people willing to pay more then 450$?

i don't think so. well you never know most sales are going to be us/uk/europe so anything is possible. will kinect be doomed?  it's not doomed, but i already can't find an audience for it, i dont think that gears of war or halo fans will get kinect unless its for their family(a.k.a selnor), and their are two consoles on the market with motion controls and to the casuals the wii is more popular. so if kinect moves hardware it will be taking sales from the wii. i dont see playstation move moving consoles unless it's people who have the wii and they want to upgrade( but thats highley unlikely).

That's a little dicey.

If Nintendo goes with a $149 price, I would expect to see the Wii Sports Resort/M Plus bundling to be dropped.

As it stands, the $199 Sports Resort bundle is still a pretty good value and I'm not sure Nintendo needs to drop into "defensive pricing mode" just yet.

It's hard enough to track sales let alone accessories.

Does someone need to remind you that since November 2005 the 360 core price has dropped $100.  At launch had a HDD unit for $400 and a HDD less unit for $300. Now HDD unit for $300 and HDD less unit for $200.    MS still has room and I believe they just gave themselves more room to drop Kinect price next year as that hardware reduces in price. They will get the early adopters this year even at $150 and the new 360 customers at $300.  Next year they can drop the standalong Kinect to $100 and new console to $200 with Kinect.