Hey that's a cool stat!  I had no idea that the PS2 has sold that well against this generation HD consoles.  Of course I really didn't get into gaming until 2008 so I am behind the times lol.

A reminder yet again  how big of a mistake Sony made by making the PS3 so damn expensive. Both PS1 and PS2 were less powerfull than their direct competitors, still selling at about the same price point as the competition and yet they dominated. And the Wii proved you don't need to be the first on the market either.

Now PS3 is going to be stuck with a higher price point for the rest of this generation, and Sony lost a lot of money.

congrats to Sony family!

Facts have to be faced.  Figures totalled and fingers pointed.

Or at least on this site they do.

Hate to be the one to break it to you but your actually wrong. 360 has sold more then PS2 in Americas,Japan and Europe since 360 was released.

Since 360 was released in each region these are the vgc numbers.

US 360 release date 22nd november 2005.

360 sales - 23.8m

PS2 sales - 17m

Japan 360 release date december 10th 2005

360 sales - 1.3m

PS2 sales - 3.4m

Europe 360 release date december 2nd 2005

UK sales

360 - 5m

PS2 - 2.2m

France sales

360 - 1.94m

PS2 - 1.74m

Germany sales

360 - 1.5m

PS2 - 1.7m

Spain sales

360 - 741k

PS2 - 2m

Italy sales

360 - 1.24m

PS2 - 3.4m

Scandenavia sales

360 - 949k

PS2 - 1m

Other Europe sales

360 - 1.2m

PS2 - 3.2m

TOTAL EUROPE sales

360 -  12.57m

PS2 - 13.98m

TOTAL SALES 360

US sales Japan sales Europe sales

23.8m    1.3m    12.57m  = 37.67m 360 sales

TOTAL SALES PS2

US sales Japan sales Europe sales

17m     3.4m    13.98m  =  34.38m PS2 sales

Meaning in Americas,Japan and Europe since 360's release 360 has sold more units then PS2.

Now what i have not included in these figures are the countries outside europe,americas and japan. Reason for that is if you actually look at these countries your find most of them have not even had a 360 release there. And in some regions PS2 is selling above or just under Wii.

But if you want those numbers these are what they are

OTHER Sales

360 - 2.4m

PS2 - 8m

New totals

360 - 40m

PS2 - 42m

But as i said above you can't really use numbers from these places as you would have to go through individually and remove places where 360 is not released. Like for example China, the most populated planet on earth. Many Middle Eastern countries. In reality if you went through each of those countries and removed the ones without a 360 release the PS2 total would be a lot lower.

Either way it does not matter, 360 has outsold PS2 in americas,europe and japan since it's release.

that's like saying the sales there do not count!, which is not the case this is a site that has "WORLD WIDE" sales total's does it not?

so just because the XBOX360 is not released into those areas is not the fault of the other countries and their sales..

say for instance as an example: If the PS3 or the Wii was not released in the US market and the xbox360 was would you than exclude the US because the Wii and the PS3 was not released there...?

This is true. Also, the Wii won't ever catch the PS2 in lifetime sales, which is equally hard for some to grasp.

Yes it does count.....

For example as i mentioned China. 360 is not released there. PS2 is. The point of his findings was to say that since 360 has been released PS2 has sold more. If your going to do that you can't include PS2 data from countries where there is no 360. Plus on top of that as i mentioned you would have to go through each individual country and count the numbers from when the 360 released. In a lot of regions the release was a lot later then everywhere else.

For example,

India = September 2006

South America = december 2006

Asia = feb 24th 2006

Oceana = 24th march 2006

Philipines = may 2006

etc etc

The point is the reason the PS2 has sold more then 360 is down to "others" regions. Places that have had varied 360 releases and in many cases none at all.

Basically his method is showing you total sales of PS2 since 360 was released worldwide. In that instance he is correct.

However as shown if you break down each region based on when the 360 was actually released in each region he is wrong. In terms of collecting data you can't use numbers that are prior to 360's actual release as that would make the numbers false. That is what he has done.

I know, right.

But i felt like just because the tech is old, why discriminate and say that it can't be apart of this "next gen", since its obviously has done great this gen. Respect thy elders! :D

how is it false, he is showing the product sales in a per region basis just as you did..it would be great to pick an choose what data to ignore and which to choose , but you cannot if you want to be unbias. look his data is when the system's sales were from the start of when the xbox360 was released..not when the PS2 was released because the PS2 would be way more ahead.

just because a product is not in a region and another is does not mean you get to exclude those sales in the totals. that's like saying I release a product and you than release one at the same time but i put it in more places than you . but you want to exclude those places sales?

look just because the xbox360 sold more in some region's than other does not take away from the fact the PS2 out sold the xbox360 and the PS3 world wide.

the Xbox360 does not do as well in Japan as the other two, yet that does not mean we exclude the sales number's for total system's sold.

for as good of the sales the xbox360 and the PS3 has had the PS2 just sold more because (a) there are areas that are just now getting the PS2 for the very first time..it's a new launched system there! It's like they just got a new system released there even though the rest of the world has had them for many year's. (b) it's priced very Low, with a ton of existing software to buy.