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Nintendo are the innovators of gaming, as long as Nintendo stays Nintendo they will be #1.



                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   

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dharh said:
dahuman said:
dharh said:
I don't think thats quite right. Eventually he would probably get a MS console. But the fact of the matter is Nintendo does not offer very much in the way of games like those found on the HD consoles.

If you really look at it. The HD consoles offer a completely difference experience than the Wii (or vice versa if you prefer). So when you prefer the HD experience then the argument becomes about X360 vs PS3 and until recently even I, who buys all consoles, have said the PS3 has the better experience (taking all things into consideration).

In reality we are all a little biased. Even those who claim they just like to play 'fun' games and don't like all the serious business those HD consoles carry with them.

You want a true HD and full online experience? PC, none shall pass!


Thus one of the arguments for why PS3 beats the X360. More exclusives from the X360 can be found on the PC, done better. That can't be said for quite a few of the AAA PS3 exclusives. That said, there is an argument to be made ultimately the PC is more expensive and more stress inducing.

I just double click in Steam lol.



dharh said:
dahuman said:
dharh said:
RolStoppable said:
@dharh

While the 3DS at the moment doesn't have any games that weren't possible without 3D before, it has plenty of games that gamers want to experience in 3D. Also, it's not like Nintendo absolutely has to have new types of games ready for launch, because at that time no competitor will have shown up. The 3DS is in a comparable situation to the PS2, meaning that even if it doesn't do anything that is very innovative, it will take the victory home.

Putting peoples enthusiasm aside, I would be much happier with say a $20-50 reduction in price tag.

Stepping back into the 3D discussion, taking bets on how many 3rd party games will actually use 3D. If nintendo _requires_ all games use the 3D feature will that mean low number of games? Are studios gonna even be equipped for this? Thats a losing situation if SONY steps up it games and releases 10 games a month on a PSP2 while nintendo is stuck with 2-3 games a month.

the perk is that you can turn it completely off dood, options is a wonderful thing when implemented right that anybody can use the technology.


That doesn't really negate that fact that A) I still had to pay for a feature I wont use. B) developers have to spend money and time developing a feature I wont use. C) It all could amount to less number of games being released.


Are you one of those with eye problems that can't see 3D?



dahuman said:
dharh said:
dahuman said:
the perk is that you can turn it completely off dood, options is a wonderful thing when implemented right that anybody can use the technology.

 


That doesn't really negate that fact that A) I still had to pay for a feature I wont use. B) developers have to spend money and time developing a feature I wont use. C) It all could amount to less number of games being released.


Are you one of those with eye problems that can't see 3D?

That particular issue is not really a problem. I kinda don't care what 10% of the population can or cannot see or do.



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dahuman said:
dharh said:

Thus one of the arguments for why PS3 beats the X360. More exclusives from the X360 can be found on the PC, done better. That can't be said for quite a few of the AAA PS3 exclusives. That said, there is an argument to be made ultimately the PC is more expensive and more stress inducing.

I just double click in Steam lol.

That nice... I only buy PC games through steam as well. I'm not sure how that pertains to my post, unless you are suggesting that all people can 'just double click in steam' and that magically makes their PCs work better. Consoles are consoles because the necessary knowledge and costs in playing games tends to be less than on a PC.



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MaxwellGT2000 said:
Gilgamesh said:

There's just no winning for me in a Rol thread now is there?

I give up I've been basically repeating myself in every post  so it's pointless to quote anymore. I'll keep going on about playing my Sony system/games and saying it's the best and always will be, and you guys can go on about playing your Nintendo system/games and saying whatever you want about your favorite video game company and we'll all live happily ever after :D


LOL you know some people aren't doing it for some fanbase vs fanbase bullcrap right?  It's a bit odd to lots of people that really enjoy all consoles and games and companies to be as deeply rooted into one belief and one corporation as you say you are, the most perplexing being that you know you're that way and somehow that makes it alright, like if Sony really did leave the market you would just stick with your Sony consoles and never play a new gen of games ever.

You are free to believe what you wish but when you start to bring your narrow view of the gaming world to a thread some people are gonna take issue with the things you state, they get more frustrated because the way you make your points are circular logic and simply "it is so because that's what I think" which doesn't actually work when you're in a debate or trying to appeal to the readers reasoning.

Not jumping on you man just pointing that out, if you're gonna state what you want to state, it might be best not to debate especially if you're gonna go on for pages then get frustrated and stop talking like this lol it saves everyone some headaches.

A few things I wanna point out.

"like if Sony really did leave the market you would just stick with your Sony consoles and never play a new gen of games ever."

This is true, unless Sony becomes a software company and makes games for Nintendo and Microsoft, but we all know the odds of any of that happening.

I'm just trying to get the facts straight, countless people are assuming the 3DS is going to automatically win next gen, which makes no sense at all without knowing the competitions next gen handheld is, that's just fanboyism posting something like that.

Also like I already explained I was basically just starting to repeat myself with every post, since I was being quoted so much, and a lot of those post took me a long time to write, so I don't feel like wasting anymore of my time. I'm a stubborn person, and I'm not easily persuaded, just because someone thinks what I'm saying is wrong doesn't mean I'm going to stop saying it, I believe every word I say and it'll take a lot to change my mind. 

But wait a minute, this a Rol thread, how'd everything get so serious? :l



Gilgamesh said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
Gilgamesh said:

There's just no winning for me in a Rol thread now is there?

I give up I've been basically repeating myself in every post  so it's pointless to quote anymore. I'll keep going on about playing my Sony system/games and saying it's the best and always will be, and you guys can go on about playing your Nintendo system/games and saying whatever you want about your favorite video game company and we'll all live happily ever after :D


LOL you know some people aren't doing it for some fanbase vs fanbase bullcrap right?  It's a bit odd to lots of people that really enjoy all consoles and games and companies to be as deeply rooted into one belief and one corporation as you say you are, the most perplexing being that you know you're that way and somehow that makes it alright, like if Sony really did leave the market you would just stick with your Sony consoles and never play a new gen of games ever.

You are free to believe what you wish but when you start to bring your narrow view of the gaming world to a thread some people are gonna take issue with the things you state, they get more frustrated because the way you make your points are circular logic and simply "it is so because that's what I think" which doesn't actually work when you're in a debate or trying to appeal to the readers reasoning.

Not jumping on you man just pointing that out, if you're gonna state what you want to state, it might be best not to debate especially if you're gonna go on for pages then get frustrated and stop talking like this lol it saves everyone some headaches.

A few things I wanna point out.

"like if Sony really did leave the market you would just stick with your Sony consoles and never play a new gen of games ever."

This is true, unless Sony becomes a software company and makes games for Nintendo and Microsoft, but we all know the odds of any of that happening.

I'm just trying to get the facts straight, countless people are assuming the 3DS is going to automatically win next gen, which makes no sense at all without knowing the competitions next gen handheld is, that's just fanboyism posting something like that.

Also like I already explained I was basically just starting to repeat myself with every post, since I was being quoted so much, and a lot of those post took me a long time to write, so I don't feel like wasting anymore of my time. I'm a stubborn person, and I'm not easily persuaded, just because someone thinks what I'm saying is wrong doesn't mean I'm going to stop saying it, I believe every word I say and it'll take a lot to change my mind. 

But wait a minute, this a Rol thread, how'd everything get so serious? :l


Eh until we know Sony even has a new handheld for the next gen, everything is questionable, at this moment.  Just like people said the PSP was gonna be the winner vs DS, the 3DS isn't some fortress that can't be stopped, but as a gamer I'm buying a 3DS for sure and when something I have to play hits Sonys next console I'll buy that too.  

Only thing "which makes no sense at all without knowing the competitions next gen handheld is, that's just fanboyism posting something like that."  but before you said "I'll keep going on about playing my Sony system/games and saying it's the best and always will be,"... that's really hypocritical and  people are gonna call you out on that... it's just as bad to state 3DS is an automatic win as it is to say Sony can win when you have absolutely NO info if there is even going to be a new handheld to go up against the 3DS.  

Blind loyalty is blind loyalty no matter the side it's coming from, you're taking issue with the other narrow minded side as well as grouping the reasonable people in with the blind... when you yourself say you're rooted in your beliefs... I dunno if you're gonna do it yourself you probably shouldn't whine that others do it and then even group those that are trying to be reasonable with the other guys



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MaxwellGT2000 said:
Gilgamesh said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
Gilgamesh said:

There's just no winning for me in a Rol thread now is there?

I give up I've been basically repeating myself in every post  so it's pointless to quote anymore. I'll keep going on about playing my Sony system/games and saying it's the best and always will be, and you guys can go on about playing your Nintendo system/games and saying whatever you want about your favorite video game company and we'll all live happily ever after :D


LOL you know some people aren't doing it for some fanbase vs fanbase bullcrap right?  It's a bit odd to lots of people that really enjoy all consoles and games and companies to be as deeply rooted into one belief and one corporation as you say you are, the most perplexing being that you know you're that way and somehow that makes it alright, like if Sony really did leave the market you would just stick with your Sony consoles and never play a new gen of games ever.

You are free to believe what you wish but when you start to bring your narrow view of the gaming world to a thread some people are gonna take issue with the things you state, they get more frustrated because the way you make your points are circular logic and simply "it is so because that's what I think" which doesn't actually work when you're in a debate or trying to appeal to the readers reasoning.

Not jumping on you man just pointing that out, if you're gonna state what you want to state, it might be best not to debate especially if you're gonna go on for pages then get frustrated and stop talking like this lol it saves everyone some headaches.

A few things I wanna point out.

"like if Sony really did leave the market you would just stick with your Sony consoles and never play a new gen of games ever."

This is true, unless Sony becomes a software company and makes games for Nintendo and Microsoft, but we all know the odds of any of that happening.

I'm just trying to get the facts straight, countless people are assuming the 3DS is going to automatically win next gen, which makes no sense at all without knowing the competitions next gen handheld is, that's just fanboyism posting something like that.

Also like I already explained I was basically just starting to repeat myself with every post, since I was being quoted so much, and a lot of those post took me a long time to write, so I don't feel like wasting anymore of my time. I'm a stubborn person, and I'm not easily persuaded, just because someone thinks what I'm saying is wrong doesn't mean I'm going to stop saying it, I believe every word I say and it'll take a lot to change my mind. 

But wait a minute, this a Rol thread, how'd everything get so serious? :l


Eh until we know Sony even has a new handheld for the next gen, everything is questionable, at this moment.  Just like people said the PSP was gonna be the winner vs DS, the 3DS isn't some fortress that can't be stopped, but as a gamer I'm buying a 3DS for sure and when something I have to play hits Sonys next console I'll buy that too.  

Only thing "which makes no sense at all without knowing the competitions next gen handheld is, that's just fanboyism posting something like that."  but before you said "I'll keep going on about playing my Sony system/games and saying it's the best and always will be,"... that's really hypocritical and  people are gonna call you out on that... it's just as bad to state 3DS is an automatic win as it is to say Sony can win when you have absolutely NO info if there is even going to be a new handheld to go up against the 3DS.  

Blind loyalty is blind loyalty no matter the side it's coming from, you're taking issue with the other narrow minded side as well as grouping the reasonable people in with the blind... when you yourself say you're rooted in your beliefs... I dunno if you're gonna do it yourself you probably shouldn't whine that others do it and then even group those that are trying to be reasonable with the other guys

I'm a fanboy, I've admit many times.

Also I don't think I've ever said a Sony handheld was going to beat the 3DS, I've said many times it could be a Sony/Microsoft/Apple handheld that could also take the handheld crown next gen, it can happen and is entirely plausible. But since I am a Sony fan I would love to see a PSP2 released and beat the 3DS.



Sony said psp is a 10 year plan Nintendo handhelds ten to last 4- 5 ytears before the next upgrade so when ever the psp2 is announced. you cxan be certain nintendo will steal that shine AGAIN.



SOLIDSNAKE08 said:

its been confirmed today that GT5 has a weather system, track editor and go karts! seriously i think this is going to be the best selling in the series even beating GT3 sales of 14 million plus!

dharh said:
dahuman said:
dharh said:

Thus one of the arguments for why PS3 beats the X360. More exclusives from the X360 can be found on the PC, done better. That can't be said for quite a few of the AAA PS3 exclusives. That said, there is an argument to be made ultimately the PC is more expensive and more stress inducing.

I just double click in Steam lol.

That nice... I only buy PC games through steam as well. I'm not sure how that pertains to my post, unless you are suggesting that all people can 'just double click in steam' and that magically makes their PCs work better. Consoles are consoles because the necessary knowledge and costs in playing games tends to be less than on a PC.


It's really pretty easy these days, and it's about the same price if you shop smart on Steam. Windows 7 did make things more idiot proof apparently. the complaints has always been having to install shit, configure them, but with steam, you just click stuff and let it do the work, and if you don't know about settings, either do optimal or don't bother and it'd still look at least as good as consoles if not better with modern games. I do live in the US where PCs can be quiet cheap though, not sure where you are.